RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes?
December 21, 2013 at 3:05 am
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2013 at 3:13 am by Godscreated.)
(December 20, 2013 at 8:43 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Do/did all those families want us to do this in response to 9/11? Even so, if you care about the innocent, you will try to avoid doing shit that, ya know, kills the innocent. Such as... invading, bombing, and droning other countries.
Then how would you suggest we stop the terrorist from killing the innocent. Remember terrorist is the key here.
GC
(December 20, 2013 at 8:55 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:(December 20, 2013 at 8:40 pm)Godschild Wrote:
The people who flew the planes into the buildings were eliminated... by their own hands... when they flew the planes into the buildings.
Sarcasm aside, I agree with FNM. What we're doing right now makes us no better (and maybe actually worse) from those who masterminded 9/11.
I'll ask you the same question any suggestions on how to tame the terrorist.
GC
(December 20, 2013 at 9:01 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, I don't think that there war for the US is a moral question. There are no other reasons for the US to pursue active war outside of its borders. They have no kinsman to liberate, nor and solid enemies that they can tackle, only a few fringe groups of insurgents for which they invade countries.
But there are reasons that are associated with the acquisition of raw materials and such, which are, in my opinion, valid reasons for a nation to actively seek war.
So in such cases, one must surrender moral superiority to the enemy, since moral superiority does not win wars.
If you're trying to say we are after the oil, did you know the U.S. will be the number one oil producer in a year or so.
GC
(December 20, 2013 at 9:18 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(December 20, 2013 at 8:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ FaithnoMore, what about the innocent that died on 9/11, do we not owe them to try and eliminate these people who couldn't care less about innocence. War will always claim the innocent, such as the families of the soldiers that die to defend your home and freedom, the drones help to eliminate the death of some soldiers and keep the innocent family members here from becoming victims of terrorist. War is never ever nice and never will be sanitary, so you might as well accept this fact, innocent people get hurt in wars.
I do accept that innocent people get hurt in wars. What I reject is engaging in a campaign that drastically raises the risk of killing innocents, all in the name of bloodlust. Sure, drones eliminate the death of some soldiers, but you know what eliminate the death of all the soldiers? Dropping a nuclear bomb on the area. But we don't do that because of the injury it would cause to people that have absolutely no part in the conflict. Now, clearly the drones cause a lot less damage than a nuke, but my point was to illustrate that saving a life isn't justification to be wreckless in our efforts to defeat the enemy.
If we truly want to be the "good guys" and do what is right and just, we would not engage in any campaign that results in the absolute bare minimum amount of risk to innocent lives.
I'll ask you also, how then do we deal with the killing mind of terrorist. Again the key here is terrorist.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.