RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes?
December 27, 2013 at 4:01 pm
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2013 at 4:04 pm by Blake the Heretic.)
(December 26, 2013 at 2:01 pm)là bạn điên Wrote:Quote:Do not give me crap for thinking a journal/magazine/news source named 'The Economist' was about economics. it literally says 'Economic' right in its name -.-' I'm not familiar with this particular political information source.
It is the third highest selling political magazine in the USA.
Quote:Never said you had to accept it off my magic spidey sense, I was just saying that to me personally I get a negative impression.
You don't read much or research at all on the matter so what is your impression based on?
Quote:What lesson? Well how about 'Take Threats Seriously' or does no one else remember how lack of preparedness and unwillingness to address a potential threat is what allowed 9/11 to happen in the first place?
There are hundreds of potential threats daily
Quote:I knew Clinton had the opportunity to kill either Bin Laden or Hussein when he was still in office ( I can't remember which of the two specifically it was ) I know nothing of Al Quada attacking during his administration though.
Why don't you know these things? You are very opinionated and yet don;t seem to bother about reading stuff up.
AQ attacked the USA in Bush's first year, well before he enacted any strongMiddle Eastern Policy. The Invasions were a result of that. Radicals seem to imply that the 9/11 attacks were a result of the USA attacking Afghanistan.
Quote:Nice, sarcasm.
Glad it makes you happy
Quote:My point was there was a diplomatic solution in Syria, but Obama wanted there to be war.
There has been no diplomatic solution. Syria is in a bloody civil war with hundreds of thousands dead, the vast majority of whom were killed by conventional means. This killing is still going on. All that has been removed was a vastly smaller number of deaths from poison gas. If that is a 'solution' to the war then you have some strange ideas.
Highest selling usually goes hand in hand with corporate influence into content. Besides since when did popular demand dictate accuracy of information? If quality was determined by popularity Miley Cyrus and One Direction would be heralded as the greatest musicians in history.
Actually I read into the matter daily, and at this point I've read at least several hundred articles ( and I mean read, not glance at the headline ) on this particular matter.
Clearly we're doing a better defensive job then, and if we set the priority from offense to defense we might be able to get somewhere. Besides, we'er not in a good economic position to be doing this kind of warfare, it's breaking the country just as much as anything else we do.
I don't know much about Clinton because I was 5 maybe 6 years old when he was in office. Most children don't follow politics. I know he played Sax and was responsible for NAFTA that's about it. Oh and he got a BJ in the oval office.
No, 9/11 happened because of our previous war involvements in the area, combined with unwillingness by our government to take their threat seriously.
Yes, there is still Civil War. Allow to to rephrase since clearly I have to be 100% specific for you: Obama wasn't interested in a diplomatic solution for the nations who were considering intervening war style, however, Putin found one that kept America out of a war they couldn't afford right now. Better?
(December 26, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:I knew Clinton had the opportunity to kill either Bin Laden or Hussein when he was still in office
I heard Clinton speak at a luncheon in Westbury, NY. He discussed that "opportunity." The intelligence was that he was located in one of two compounds but that both contained unknown numbers of civilians and the risk of massive civilian casualties was too high.
Of course, that was before 9-11. Sadly, now, I think we would fire anyway and not give a shit how many innocents had to die in the process.
We have fallen a long way off our moral high horse.
Wasn't war at one point a last resort for America? I remember from history in both World Wars we waited as long as we could before getting involved. I think we were isolationists at the time. Still, war shouldn't be the go-to for politics it should be the 'last resort'
There is no God, so can we please get back to science?