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Dan Barker (atheist) vs Hamza Tzortzis (muslim)
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RE: Dan Barker (atheist) vs Hamza Tzortzis (muslim)
(December 26, 2013 at 12:52 am)TheOneAndOnly Wrote: At 31:00 Dan Barker stated that he's heard some Muslims says Allah is 'infinitely just' and 'infinitely merciful' and those two contradict each other which they certainly do as if a being is infinitely merciful he will not be able to be infinitely just.
That tells you that Dan Barker knows very little about Islam nor do some of the naive posters on here. Nowhere in Islam is Allah considered 'infinitely just' or 'infinitely merciful.' He is Most Just and Most Merciful. That means more merciful and more just than anybody.

No it tells you that his version of the qur'an translates it this way in to English, it also tells you that some muslims interpret it this way, and repeat it this way to non-muslims. I have certainly heard muslims describe Allah as infinitely merciful and infinitely just, heck we even have a recent thread or two in this sub-forum in which our resident muslim quacks have tried to defend the concept of being infintely just and infintely merciful. Even if Allah was 'most' merciful and 'most' just then his judge and jury skills are vague and wildly variable; I don't want my judge dishing out punishments depending on how merciful or how just he's feeling on the day. Mercy is the suspension of justice, to be merciful means that justice hasn't been fully done.

Quote:I stopped watching there because of that fatal mistake he made that even an atheist with basic thinking skills will tell you.

Let's not talk about basic thinking skills shall we. Such basic thinking skills would suggest that the obvious disparity between the way in which differnt muslims interpret the qur'an shows that it clearly isn't divine in origin. No supernatural being would make his orders for humanity that vague and open to dispute, surely? Many muslims can't agree on the basics, let alone the finer details.
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Most Gays have a typical behavior of rejecting religions, because religions consider them as sinners (In Islam they deserve to be killed)
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I think you are too idiot to know the meaning of idiot for example you have a law to prevent boys under 16 from driving do you think that all boys under 16 are careless and cannot drive properly
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Dan Barker (atheist) vs Hamza Tzortzis (muslim) - by WesOlsen - December 23, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Dan Barker (atheist) vs Hamza Tzortzis (muslim) - by WesOlsen - December 27, 2013 at 6:24 pm

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