(December 30, 2013 at 12:51 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: It depends on how one wants to perceive history/conflicts per se.
The instrumentalist in me agrees that religion is often a smokescreen or a cover for a greater issue behind the scenes (whatever it might be).
However, as a (de)-constructivist, often original causes for conflicts are lost as generation after generation become entrenched in their otherism, and the reasons why they dislike each other morph with them.
Religion in this instance is very much a cause for conflict, equal to any political or economical difference. Indeed, if I may take your own religion, the cultural and economic aspects of Islam are tied very much to the religious structures themselves, meaning it is often very hard to discern a difference when one wages war in the name of an extreme Islamic ideology or whether it's simply because they want more money for their tribe/state/clan etc.
Truth is, even if religion per se isn't the cause for conflict, removing it at the very least as an excuse for the myriad of reasons why someone might want to harm another is surely a task all should strive for?
Take the recent murder of a solider in the UK recently by two indoctrinated fundamentalists in east London. They said on camera after butchering the guy with a meat cleaver that their actions were retribution for the west's 'transgressions' in the Middle East and Afghanistan.
Prima facie that could be enough, but what motivated them to act beyond the simple cause? It was the Quran that gave them the justification that sought, at least in their minds. Whether one disagrees with their actions (which surely all same people would), the fact that in their mind the religious aspects of their cause gave them the legitimacy to act on their political grievances lends weight to the argument that religion as a cause cannot be dismissed so easily.
I 'll tell u something.. middle east governors are no more than puppets to a bigger organization.. and surely not an Islamic one.. they don't even follow simple islamic instruction .. they drink and practice fornication and lend money with interests .. they're unjust and dictators ..But still! They use religion as an excuse for their oppression against their people.
exactly like what is happening in KSA.
A killer is a killer .. you can cut food with a knife as well as u can kill with it.
Many murderers were motivated by Hollywood movies ! Does that make actors or writers bad or aggressive?
Do u see my point here?
We r fighting each other thinking that our differences including religions r the reason while the real murderers r walking free and enjoying their wealthy lives.
U can be a friend with someone who is so different ! But evil people can use that difference to let u 2 fight against each other.