(January 2, 2014 at 2:00 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(January 2, 2014 at 1:56 pm)FreeTony Wrote: In my post I didn't say that the supernatural doesn't exist. I'm saying it is impossible to demonstrate that it does. I don't think I am making any assumptions about the existence of a supernatural realm.
The list doesn't make a lot of sense. Theists tend to do this as they are not generally interested in finding out what is/isn't true, rather they try to justify their own beliefs in any way they can. The list is a long argument from ignorance. "If you can't explain everything on my list, we must assume the supernatural exists".
I agree, "supernatural" is a totally undefined, senseless concept. I would say that all ideas and beliefs, being determined by time and energy, chance and necessity, are oftentimes unjustifiable at a fundamental level.. I just don't see how inserting God into the mix solves anything. But then of course, he might assert that Theism and Naturalism are both equally borne out of unjustified assumptions (or rather, theists are justified if God exists).
It's all just shifting the burden of proof. I lack belief in the supernatural, but I also can lack belief in the claim "The supernatural does NOT exist". I'm therefore not assuming anything in regards to the supernatural.
So so many people can't get their head around "I don't believe claim A" is not the same as "I believe claim B" where A and B are the only options.
