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Is utopia impossible?
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RE: Is utopia impossible?
(January 4, 2014 at 10:37 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: You clearly fail to see the difference between private & personal property. Private property is the means of production, personal property is everything else (except land).

Basically you maintain exclusive rights to your banana (and all your other stuff), but factories & farms & all other means of production become communally owned.
I don't "fail to see the difference." I don't use those words the same way you do, and said I suspected so.

All these means must be managed. How would it be decided who manages them? And once they are in a position to manage, which involves making decisions involving large amounts of goods, what measures could be taken to prevent them from converting their privileged position into personal power over others? It seems impossible to achieve this state in actual social groups of actual human beings, no?
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Is utopia impossible? - by BrokenQuill92 - January 1, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by Mister Agenda - January 1, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by TaraJo - January 4, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by Chad32 - January 1, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 1, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by bennyboy - January 2, 2014 at 2:53 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by Cato - January 2, 2014 at 2:58 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by Angrboda - January 2, 2014 at 3:03 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by Jackalope - January 2, 2014 at 3:04 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by Zen Badger - January 2, 2014 at 4:47 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by KichigaiNeko - January 2, 2014 at 6:09 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by EgoRaptor - January 3, 2014 at 12:18 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by Jackalope - January 3, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by bennyboy - January 4, 2014 at 2:59 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 6:47 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by bennyboy - January 4, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by bennyboy - January 5, 2014 at 3:29 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by là bạn điên - January 5, 2014 at 5:12 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by bennyboy - January 5, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by là bạn điên - January 5, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by bennyboy - January 6, 2014 at 2:27 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by EgoRaptor - January 6, 2014 at 2:50 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by MindForgedManacle - January 3, 2014 at 1:07 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by BrokenQuill92 - January 4, 2014 at 12:33 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by MindForgedManacle - January 4, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by EgoRaptor - January 5, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Is utopia impossible? - by Ryantology - January 6, 2014 at 3:15 am

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