(January 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm)ska88 Wrote:(January 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Are you suggesting that numerical trickery equals miracles? Because if so, someone - not necessarily you - has a very low credulity threshold.
Numerical tricks as u described them ensure that Quran was never manipulated.
How?
(January 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm)ska88 Wrote: These numerical miracles .. r discovered by recent muslims!
Irrelevant.
(January 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm)ska88 Wrote: see.. God promised us that he will save Quran from manipulation and it will remain as it is .. all the time.
And discovering these numerical "tricks" .. now … proves that the Quran was never been manipulated!!
Non-sequitur. But maybe a clarification of your own opinions on the matter might help.
(January 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm)ska88 Wrote: and why don't u ask how will this be a miracle? instead of making fun of him?? I'm sure u didn't seek an answer or anything good by ur reply.
Read my words again; I'm sure you'll find that I asked precisely that. Essentially, why you thought numerical manipulation is a miracle. I wasn't trying to make fun of anyone, and I certainly did ask for the purpose of seeking an answer. If you don't feel you can provide one then fine, just say so instead of projecting your insecurity onto me. Deflecting discussion by criticising the character of the questioner is exactly what you accused me of doing; maybe you ought to look a little closer to home.
(January 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm)ska88 Wrote: You can be good with different people .. u know!
I know that ... do you? A cursory glance through my post and kudos history will show that, despite my best efforts, my posts are generally fairly well received and taken as friendly by people on all sides of the fence. So far I've been quite affable with you - whether this state of grace continues depends entirely on you.
(January 8, 2014 at 3:14 pm)ska88 Wrote: u can be good with him and still don't believe on god.
Well, that's handy but it's also rather insulting. Translated, you've just told me that just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I can't be nice. I do hope you didn't mean to say that, but if you did have that intention then please drop the attitude. I'm saying that for your own sake.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'