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Science And The Bible - Introduction
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RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction
I don't recall who originally posted this but it's as relevant in response to Daystar's argument as any other I've heard:

Quote:That Boat Don't Float - For Jessica

In 1898 the U.S.S. Wyoming was launched. She was the state-of-the art in wooden hulled shipbuilding. She was a six masted schooner and, at 329 ft., the longest ship with an all wood keel and hull ever built. She was one of nine six masted schooners build around the turn of the century. All were 300 ft. or more in length. They were all state-of-the art.

The Wyoming had steel cross-bracing. Even while she was yet on the drawing boards the marine engineers who designed and built her knew from experience with shorter ships that the length of the Wyoming would exceed the structural limits of wood. For this reason they attempted to defeat, or at least support, the laws of physics with steel. It was all to no avail. Not even the steel bracing could prevent the flexing and twisting that resulted in a separation of the hull planking. The Wyoming leaked, badly, from the day she hit the water until the day, 4 years later, when she was decommissioned. The Wyoming required constant pumping, as did her sister ships.

It is said that she could be seen to snake (movement of the bow from side to side in relation to the stern) and hog (movement of the bow up and down in relation to the stern) while underway. The action of the waves, in even calm seas, caused the planking to be sprung beyond the capabilities of any caulking that could be devised. The Wyoming (and all eight of her sister ships) were considered unseaworthy. They were used for short (too long under way and the leakage became more than the pumps could handle), close-in coastal hauls, generally in sight of land. At the first sign if inclement weather, they were required to run for port (any port in a storm).

I have always had a great love for windjammers. I have some very expensive books that deal with the minutia of their construction and for years my hobby was to build full rigged wooden models. I spent hours climbing over the decks of the U.S.S. Constitution in Charleston Navy Yard, admiring her construction. The Wyoming must have been a beautiful vessel. But she was a beautiful anachronism. At about 300 ft. the structural capabilities of wood were exceeded beyond the abilities of engineering and design to remedy. After the Wyoming and her sisters, wood was abandoned as construction material for major vessels.

And yet, creationists want me to believe that a 450 ft. (minimum) vessel of ALL wood construction was able to withstand a storm of 40 days and then remain at sea for almost a year, manned by only eight people, without the efficient steel pumps of the turn of the century, caulked with nothing more than "pitch inside and out". Not to mention the overwhelming necessity of the limited crew to feed and water thousands of animals and to muck out thousands of cages (and then carry the result of the mucking up two decks in order to throw it overboard). When was there time for pumping (24 hours a day as indicated above) and the constant recaulking in a futile attempt to stem the flow.

You may perceive this as an argument from incredulity similar to those that are so typical of creationists, but I just can't believe such a fairy tale. Experience with real wooden ships sailing in real oceans indicates that Noah's ark would not have survived many days of the 40 day storm.

My opinion of Noah's ark is that that boat don't float.

Noah's Ark is a crock! Don't even get me started on the stupidity of the flood!

Kyu
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Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 3:44 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 3:54 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by CoxRox - December 4, 2008 at 4:35 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 4:45 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 5:54 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 6:04 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Kyuuketsuki - December 4, 2008 at 6:10 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 10:55 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Kyuuketsuki - December 5, 2008 at 4:50 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 11:48 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 5, 2008 at 4:55 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 5:20 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 6, 2008 at 8:02 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 6, 2008 at 8:03 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 6:13 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 5:20 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Darwinian - December 4, 2008 at 3:58 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 4:04 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 6:08 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 4, 2008 at 6:13 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 6:20 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 6:27 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 6:32 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 4:46 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 5:25 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 4, 2008 at 6:07 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 4, 2008 at 6:30 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 4, 2008 at 6:34 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by CoxRox - December 4, 2008 at 6:41 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 6:46 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 4, 2008 at 6:48 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by CoxRox - December 4, 2008 at 6:55 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 7:04 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 7:09 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 4, 2008 at 7:51 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by CoxRox - December 4, 2008 at 7:10 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 7:55 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 4, 2008 at 7:17 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 4, 2008 at 8:03 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 5, 2008 at 5:55 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Tiberius - December 5, 2008 at 4:42 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 5, 2008 at 6:14 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 6, 2008 at 12:19 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LukeMC - December 6, 2008 at 12:27 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 6, 2008 at 3:35 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Ace Otana - December 6, 2008 at 4:17 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 6, 2008 at 9:59 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 9, 2008 at 3:05 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2008 at 9:05 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 9, 2008 at 11:39 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 10, 2008 at 1:01 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 5, 2008 at 9:07 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 6, 2008 at 12:28 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 6, 2008 at 5:16 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Ace Otana - December 6, 2008 at 12:21 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Tiberius - December 9, 2008 at 10:29 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Kyuuketsuki - December 12, 2008 at 6:36 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Kyuuketsuki - December 14, 2008 at 8:14 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by DD_8630 - January 7, 2009 at 9:06 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2008 at 10:31 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 10, 2008 at 12:38 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 10, 2008 at 11:47 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2008 at 12:50 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 8:49 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 13, 2008 at 8:52 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 11:57 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2008 at 1:25 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Tiberius - December 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 11, 2008 at 12:07 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by allan175 - December 11, 2008 at 5:54 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 9:13 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by allan175 - December 14, 2008 at 7:13 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Purple Rabbit - December 14, 2008 at 7:44 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by allan175 - December 14, 2008 at 7:55 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Kyuuketsuki - December 11, 2008 at 7:25 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 11, 2008 at 12:00 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 11, 2008 at 5:32 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Purple Rabbit - December 11, 2008 at 7:28 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by leo-rcc - December 11, 2008 at 2:42 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 12, 2008 at 12:25 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Purple Rabbit - December 12, 2008 at 9:22 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - December 12, 2008 at 1:06 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Rob - December 13, 2008 at 9:23 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 10:20 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Tiberius - December 13, 2008 at 9:56 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Darwinian - December 14, 2008 at 5:38 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Darwinian - December 14, 2008 at 8:05 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Tiberius - December 14, 2008 at 9:49 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2008 at 9:54 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by LondonLoves - January 26, 2009 at 1:31 pm
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by Giff - January 27, 2009 at 5:32 am
RE: Science And The Bible - Introduction - by lukec - January 26, 2009 at 3:49 pm

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