The Rayaan / Jacob(smooth) Situation

[Waratah]

I have never known anyone being banned for trolling, spamming or flaming outside the forums, always from within.

I have. I provided one situation below where we have done this.

As Tiberius just said, sometimes we have searched for information externally as well - by using public information - and then we used that information "internally" (in this forum) only when necessary. Thus we may decide to search for external contents of suspicious members, but we won't "use" them against you in any ay until you start breaking the rules in this forum. That is my understanding of the rule "Your information is used internally only when necessary" as written in the privacy policy. Tiberius will correct me if I am wrong about this.

The policy doesn't say, "Your internal information is used internally only when necessary." It says, "Your information ..." so it could be both internal and external.

So how to you know it is their information when you do not control other websites.

To prove this, here is one example where outside investigation was used against a member:

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How soon can we dump this creotard? He has plastered this same shit all over the internet, albeit most of it was a year ago. Notice the first two links are the same site with the same exact thread started a year apart. The non-christian sites dutifully pick apart his crap.

http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/2...s-god.html
http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/4...s-god.html
http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?p=1467741
http://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics...proves-god
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?...Proves-God
http://www.worthychristianforums.com/top...roves-god/

There are more.

He isn't here to discuss, he's here to preach.

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Upon seeing those links, the mods poked around in other sites to gather more knowledge about that poster, and later banned him:

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Given that he is exhibiting the same spammish behavior here that he's been observed doing elsewhere, I support FNM's motion to ban.

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I did some poking around on other sites (starting with the list of links cato123 posted here).

On all of the sites I checked, the pattern was the same - post the exact same thing (multiple times in some instances) and never participating in discussion. His one reply here to Tiberius was the exception.

I see no reason to treat him any differently from any other spammer, and have banned him as such. I'll take the spanking if this action was premature.

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But, again, an action was taken against that member (or we used the information internally) only because it was verified from our investigation that he was a spammer (i.e. he was copy-pasting a lot of stuff across different forums and not participating in discussions), which is against the rules of this forum.

Please point out the rule about the actions in other forums. I am confused.

As Tiberius told you already, the only way you will get warned or banned is by breaking the rules of this forum, on this forum. We won't ever punish you unless you start breaking the rules in this forum.

This post to me is very confusing. You start off by stating there has been a situation where someone was banned for their activities outside the forum. From what I understand, the poster reposted the same text in another thread(unsure because post was redacted) and that was the reason for his banning.