RE: Are there any Level 1's here?
January 14, 2014 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2014 at 3:16 pm by Godscreated.)
(January 11, 2014 at 3:03 am)rasetsu Wrote:
The only thing your relationship with "Him" has revealed is that you have a head full of rocks.
Diamonds are rocks.
GC
(January 11, 2014 at 3:31 am)whateverist Wrote: Yeah, I don't think knowledge works that way. Starting off having faith that you're right and then 'deciding to believe' isn't a very reliable test for knowledge. Really, I don't think 'belief' should work that way either. I can't even imagine what it would be like to decide to 'believe' something without having reason -not incentive mind you- but a concrete reason for thinking it true apart from what you might wish. Of course Christianity has been a dominant enough force in the landscape for long enough as to warp the meaning of that word. Now the muscular, Christian sense of belief has a prominent place in the dictionary even if it makes no sense at all in the world of ideas.
I believe I said God lead.
GC
(January 11, 2014 at 11:22 am)Chas Wrote:(January 11, 2014 at 1:10 am)Godschild Wrote: I'm one and will always be so. My personal relationship with Him has been extremely revealing. First comes faith, God leads us from that to belief and then to actual knowledge if we desire.
GC
Then you do not understand the difference between belief and knowledge.
I understand what each means, what you do not understand is the abilities of God.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.