Alcoholics Anonymous and the like

[Chas]

Here ya go dumbass, I did the work for you:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...mous-work/
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2746426/
http://www.thefix.com/content/the-real-s...-of-aa7301

There is no way you can get a reliable data about the success of AA, Including the own organization not wanting to provide data, the few stats provided by them, a shitload of years ago, point to a success rate equal to people that try to quit on their own.

Hence, AA is BULLSHIT!

No, those do not support your conclusion. The conclusions are that it is difficult to measure.

AA may or may not be more effective than no treatment, but the references do not support your conclusion.