(January 21, 2014 at 1:39 pm)là bạn điên Wrote: No I disagree because it is not based on any research at all but is 'surmised' by sociologists so it fits in with their ideology.Not true. There are literally dozens of credible, thorough studies that describe the sociological drivers for career selection among different ethnicities in the UK. Institutionalised discrimination is a factor. It's not the only factor but it is an important influence and one which could & should be eradicated if our society values a level playing field of career opportunity for all its citizens.
Quote:The Nature bit massively outweighs the nurture bit when it comes to pure power sports like sprinting.It does in terms of individual performance (the better your physical equipment, the easier the training will be and the higher the top-end of your performance) however in terms of selection opportunity, there's a demonstrated link between unreasoned racial stereotypes and career opportunity, availability & selection; not to mention the tendency for people to be more compartmental towards others of differing ethnicity and inclusive of their own. These are types of cultural, institutionalised discrimination. Often, individuals aren't even conscious that they're discriminating and it takes significant effort, both individually and culturally, to become aware of all these influences and develop mechanisms to combat them.
Quote:In no way whatsoever can the predominance of West African Ancestored sprinters be cultural.Sorry, the evidence disagrees with you: there are important cultural influences and that includes some discriminatory influences.
Quote:However you gave the reason above as cultural,you didn't mention genetics at all.I never claimed that culture was the only reason, ever; I always used the indefinite article. As I've said before, I'm well aware of the variety of influences but the evidence indicates that some of those are discriminatory.
Quote: That's the trouble with 'anti racists' they try and quash anyone bringing genetic factors into the equationOnly the unreasonable ones, not all anti-racists behave the same. The majority of those with serious influence are more than aware of the complexity of the factors involved and don't try to oversimplify. Bad decisions would result. Of the masses, there are plenty of people like myself who rationally review the evidence and have well informed opinions.
Quote:-like those arseholes Rose, Lewontin and Kramer who's 'science for the people' force marxism onto science -with disasterous consequences.I know of Steve Rose because of his rows with Dawkins but I'm not familiar enough with his works or the works of the others to comment on their politics. I'll look them up.
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