(January 22, 2014 at 9:42 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Not true. There are literally dozens of credible, thorough studies that describe the sociological drivers for career selection among different ethnicities in the UK. Institutionalised discrimination is a factor. It's not the only factor but it is an important influence and one which could & should be eradicated if our society values a level playing field of career opportunity for all its citizens.
So show me these dozens of 'credible' studies
Quote:It does in terms of individual performance (the better your physical equipment, the easier the training will be and the higher the top-end of your performance) however in terms of selection opportunity, there's a demonstrated link between unreasoned racial stereotypes and career opportunity, availability & selection; not to mention the tendency for people to be more compartmental towards others of differing ethnicity and inclusive of their own
You are seriously claiming that black people utterly dominate UK sprinting because of racial stereotypes? Some sociologist came up with that one did they? Funny how sports scientists don;t seem to agree
Quote:. These are types of cultural, institutionalised discrimination. Often, individuals aren't even conscious that they're discriminating and it takes significant effort, both individually and culturally, to become aware of all these influences and develop mechanisms to combat them.
Sound s like the way Christians make you want to 'ask god to come into your life'. Obviously it is also designed to make lots of money for 'diversity training' companies. I don't believe in neo marxism in any way shape or form or its bastard brother in post modernism with ots simplistic drivel of oppresed vs opressed and 'privelage'
Quote:Sorry, the evidence disagrees with you: there are important cultural influences and that includes some discriminatory influences.
No it doesn't. Ranting by marxist soiciologists is not proof
Quote:I never claimed that culture was the only reason, ever; I always used the indefinite article. As I've said before, I'm well aware of the variety of influences but the evidence indicates that some of those are discriminatory.
You indicated that the reason was cultural
Quote:Only the unreasonable ones, not all anti-racists behave the same. The majority of those with serious influence are more than aware of the complexity of the factors involved and don't try to oversimplify. Bad decisions would result. Of the masses, there are plenty of people like myself who rationally review the evidence and have well informed opinions.
Wow super arrogance- you claim 'well informed' opinions and yet you just parrot neomarxism. Yoyu sound like an ideologue to me
Quote:I know of Steve Rose because of his rows with Dawkins but I'm not familiar enough with his works or the works of the others to comment on their politics. I'll look them up.
You will undoubtedly love him.