Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?

[James2014]

Oh so you are only against people eating meat, because it causes suffering...So you are ok with animal testing/research , that may also cause long term suffering?After all that also helps prevent human suffering. Did you ever think of cancer?

You can not end suffering! You mind as well just wait for the sun to exploded if you really want all the suffering to end.

I value reducing suffering because I value the experience of conscious creatures more widely, and while reducing suffering is of primary ethical concern, positive emotions are slso of ethical concern. Essentially the fundamental premise of the utilitarian argument, which I support, is an equation which is used to judge if our actions produce more harm or more benefit.

As to animal testing, I am ambivalent on the matter because we don't know how science would progress without it, and what the effect would be of diverting funding to science that does not use animals. Certainly though a lot of medical science is of very poor statistical quality and is no benefit to anyone. Nor is it done with the ethical principle of the three Rs that many animal research advocates would claim. All these things make it almost impossible to judge if the suffering caused to animals is greater or less than the suffering to humans if we did not.


With meat though there is no such ambiguity. It is wrong and cruel. Cruel not just to the animals, but cruel to the people who think that meat is healthy but is in fact increasing their risk of cardiovascular disease, cancer and diabetes, resulting in years being taken off their life.

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You can not end suffering! You mind as well just wait for the sun to exploded it you really want all the suffering to end.

You are correct sir. Actually when we kill animals we put an end there suffering forever.
So eating meat ends animal suffering.

So you put an animal through the horror of the farm, merely to justify the killing of it to end the suffering you caused it to feel in the first place! You would reduce the suffering of the animal even more by not farming it.