Order vs. Randomness

[Rayaan]

This is false. Evolution itself works with random variation. If lets say weather changed so dramatically that there was snow on the ground for most of the year, of course over very long periods of time. If a mutation was to occur that caused white fur to develop, such white squirrels would likely then survive. The chances that these squirrels get to survive would be threw a random mutation.

I know that evolutionary theory involves a lot of randomness, but the randomness is not completely random. Evolution has natural laws acting as a selector, choosing the more advantageous random mutations. Therefore, at bottom, even evolution is not "random" in the true meaning of the word.

I understand your a theist, and you might reject the notion of evolution, but what you stated is not a fact and there is plenty of evidence to support randomness in nature.

No, I don't reject the theory of evolution.

Regarding evidence of randomness in nature, as I've said before, we don't actually know whether or not the "randomness" is truly random. Although they appear to be random, it is not possible to rule out that there is an order lurking behind them which we haven't recognized yet.

Your claim that it is all order is at most a reach to build an argument backwards to support what you would like to believe as your conclusion.

My claim is that the most fundamental aspect of reality cannot be truly random. If reality at bottom was truly random, then the orderly systems and the physical laws that we are surrounded by could have never emerged out of that randomness, let alone self-replicating intelligent beings who are able to learn and identify the patterns around them.

Back to the example if these randomness didn't happen that population of squirrels may have another mutation they pass on that helps them, or die off. Whether they live or die is randomness, just like the extinction of many other species.

See my first comment in this post.