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On the logic of nationalism
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RE: On the logic of nationalism
(January 28, 2014 at 9:20 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
Quote:And that's why your kinds of tribes are always, eventually, culturally assimilated by tribes that aren't so restrictive and backwards. You'll bleed away your talent to outsiders and your system is designed to prevent the absorption of talent from outsiders. The only way you can prevent that is inventing reasons to convince your tribe that the other tribe is bad and inferior in some stupid and arbitrary way, which is only putting a band-aid on a severed limb.
What is this about tribes and all? We're not talking about the stone age, we're talking about modern day nations.
Quote:As communications and ease of travel persist, cultures will mingle and form a new melange. It's been happening for centuries. Nationalism is dying and nothing's going to stop that in the long run. Eventually, every 'tribe' will have their ideas put to the test against the outside world, and the ones that can't cut it will lose and be absorbed.
Nationalism is still going strong. I can say this because internationalism is failing. Internationalism only corrupts people, as it has corrupted you.
Besides, where is this melange and the mingling of cultures you're talking of? I only see the cultural dominance of a vague "culture" of consumerism spreading Hollywood movies and ugly pop music.

My people had their ideas and their identity put to test against the outside world for centuries. We could cut it, and we have driven everyone before us back and carved ourselves a large niche throughout Eurasia. We are not as mindless and without a sense of pride or purpose as to let us be absorbed by others, as we have a proud past, a past that we can look up to, which is why we do not despair. Nationalism is the way for us to realize our goals regarding the future of our people. What? Should we perhaps let others decide our fate, by your reasoning? Should we adopt a foreign ideology when we can adopt a native ideology that is more in sync with out national character? Should we cut ourselves off from our roots? Should we abandon our language and our customs?
No. Which is why nationalism still works for us.
And the fact that we cannot depend on anyone else, makes nationalism even more important.
Yes, you should eliminate all of that & create new values & a new international identity.

The ego is what drives progress. You should create new values based off egoism, rather than trying to suppress man's true character. Man is the same the world over, he is an egoist. That should be the basis for new values. Nationalism demands the subjugation of the individual to the "greater good". This is against man's nature, it will never work. Even if you can manage it, it will be weak, & you will find yourself at the mercy of the ego that you have been trying to deny.
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On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by paintpooper - January 28, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Cato - January 28, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by EgoRaptor - January 28, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by EgoRaptor - January 28, 2014 at 7:08 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by paintpooper - January 28, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by TAW - January 29, 2014 at 5:28 am
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by EgoRaptor - January 28, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by EgoRaptor - January 28, 2014 at 7:41 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by paintpooper - January 28, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by EgoRaptor - January 28, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Cato - January 28, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by paintpooper - January 28, 2014 at 7:40 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Cato - January 28, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by paintpooper - January 28, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Ryantology - January 28, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Anomalocaris - January 28, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Cato - January 28, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by EgoRaptor - January 28, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Ryantology - January 28, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by ThePinsir - January 28, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by EgoRaptor - January 28, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 28, 2014 at 10:26 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Ryantology - January 29, 2014 at 2:03 am
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Assimilate - January 29, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Whateverist - January 29, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 29, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by TAW - January 29, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by paintpooper - January 29, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by TAW - January 29, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Assimilate - January 29, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 29, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by Assimilate - January 29, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 29, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by downbeatplumb - January 29, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by downbeatplumb - January 29, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by paintpooper - January 29, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 29, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by TAW - January 29, 2014 at 3:41 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by paintpooper - January 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by TAW - January 29, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: On the logic of nationalism - by kılıç_mehmet - January 29, 2014 at 5:53 pm

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