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OUR unemployment rate
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RE: OUR unemployment rate
Adrian Wrote:All through this you've made the claim that government intervention through regulation would somehow solve the problem. My question to you is what makes the government so special, as to be able to do this? Doesn't government suffer from the same problems you associate with business (i.e. corrupt individuals wanting more power). Don't most people in government have an active role in business prior to their appointment?

It doesn't necessarily have to be a government... but it remains that businesses must be regulated. So must government as it turns out, hence America's system of "checks and balances"... though it is too much of an oligarchy (and most of its people too stupid to the point an oligarchy might well be better) for my liking. If you know of a power aside from by government that can form laws, then I think we're all ready to hear about this as of yet unheard of power. But before you begin... is his name 'Jesus'?

If a business model or government or any other form of organization is set up in such a way that can check its own "corruption"... then there is no complaint towards it from me. But how many large business or governments are set up in ways that check their own power, except by regulation from other governments or organizations (ie unions)? What makes the government so special as to being able to do such things as it does... is that the government is the concentrated and directed power fueled by its workers on lower strata. If every one of those workers were to stop providing fuel for the government, then the government becomes weak. However, most of those workers depend on the government for their livelihood and regulations... without which problems like I outlined a few posts back are an easy occurrence.

Quote:This was my previous point about rethinking what government does. Other people have claimed here that only a moderate system would work in the real world, and I agree...if we stick with the current setup of government. However, Libertarianism is a lot more than just saying "free speech, free market". It's an entire shakeup of how the government operates, and there are no problems with having a privatized market that isn't controlled by the government. Anything government regulation does now, private regulation (through charities set up specifically to act as watchdogs and corporate petitioning organisations) can do as well, and often better. Government spends excessive amounts of money on wasteful beaurocracy; private organisations do not (since they cannot afford it). The problem with government thinking at the moment is that they assume they can afford anything, and they rack up massive debts doing this. Governments have worse credit ratings that any individual or collection of individuals.

Why do you assume private organizations could not afford it? A private organization acting as 'watchdog' (or even several 'watchdogs') are as manipulatable as is government. I don't think a government assumes it can afford everything... eg. you hardly see the government of Ethiopia going on a spending spree. You may be referring to a specific government that is lost on me... but governments are simply an organization set up to form regulation and manage the connected macrosystem that we call a nation. I don't see why a private business should fare any better.

So far as socialism goes... i honestly have no idea why you are against socialism. I myself am rather a fan of mixed capitalism/socialism/meritocracy. I don't see why you suggest the video above as 'so true Wink' when it is entirely inaccurate as to what socialism is. You don't see me presenting The Jungle to argue against all capitalism do you? (Rhetorical, I only use The Jungle to reflect on the trainwreck that is unregulated capitalism upon society)
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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OUR unemployment rate - by padraic - March 11, 2010 at 10:13 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Zhalentine - March 11, 2010 at 11:07 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 11, 2010 at 11:50 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by theblindferrengi - March 12, 2010 at 2:20 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by fr0d0 - March 12, 2010 at 12:51 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 12, 2010 at 1:02 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by fr0d0 - March 12, 2010 at 2:08 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 12, 2010 at 2:53 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by theblindferrengi - March 12, 2010 at 3:20 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 12, 2010 at 3:28 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by theblindferrengi - March 12, 2010 at 3:50 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Violet - March 12, 2010 at 4:24 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by fr0d0 - March 12, 2010 at 3:29 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 12, 2010 at 3:36 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 12, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by tavarish - March 12, 2010 at 10:22 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 12, 2010 at 10:39 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by tavarish - March 13, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by theblindferrengi - March 12, 2010 at 11:27 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Violet - March 13, 2010 at 5:16 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 13, 2010 at 12:05 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Violet - March 13, 2010 at 5:29 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 13, 2010 at 6:11 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by tavarish - March 13, 2010 at 7:46 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by LEDO - March 13, 2010 at 8:13 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Autumnlicious - March 13, 2010 at 11:39 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Frank - March 13, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Autumnlicious - March 14, 2010 at 4:25 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Violet - March 13, 2010 at 6:08 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by LEDO - March 14, 2010 at 8:11 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 14, 2010 at 11:25 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Frank - March 14, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by theblindferrengi - March 14, 2010 at 11:58 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Tiberius - March 14, 2010 at 1:57 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Frank - March 15, 2010 at 2:05 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by LEDO - March 15, 2010 at 5:49 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by theblindferrengi - March 15, 2010 at 6:47 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by padraic - March 16, 2010 at 2:05 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by tavarish - March 16, 2010 at 2:09 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by padraic - March 16, 2010 at 2:22 am
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Rhizomorph13 - March 16, 2010 at 1:47 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by theblindferrengi - March 16, 2010 at 2:00 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by Rhizomorph13 - March 16, 2010 at 2:42 pm
RE: OUR unemployment rate - by theblindferrengi - March 16, 2010 at 3:14 pm

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