determinism versus indeterminism

[Edwardo Piet]

But it may turn out that that kind of free will is nothing more than an anecdote we tell ourselves a posteriori! Afterwards we say that hadn't we acted so and so, event X would not have occurred. It is interesting in this regard that Dennett in his work on cognitivism shows adherence to this idea, that the body is acting before the mind has reached the 'decision' to act that way. Waht is left is not the freedom of choice but an emulated concept of free will a posteriori.

But there is still evitability right?

I'd say it does! If by free will you mean the freedom to influence in any way a priori a specific outcome it does, because an a posteriori 'explanation' in terms of cause and effect is not the same. In other words, you will have the illusion of free will instead of a priori free will.

Yeah well if I think about it if you KNEW that a particular future was definitely going to happen you couldn't really stop it. But if you don't know it then whether you believe the universe is deterministic or indetermistic a future is inevitable. Whatever that future is. But there is still evitability in the sense that you are not paralyzed if you think the future is determined. You can still make the same decisions as usual. You still have the same 'free will' that you generally think as free will.

This example won't suffice. If you hear that someone behind you(read: the neurons from your ear signal this) and suspect an attack (read: the neurons from your memory signal this), your neurons will fire automatically to signal danger and everything that happens after is fully determined by the the sum total of all previous events. There is no decision process taking place. All is just happening in a flow of cause and effect.

Yeah in a deterministic universe I see how thats true actually. But it doesn't take away evitability in the sense you don't lose freedom. You don't lose any free will from knowing the future absolutely - in a deterministic universe. Right?
Sorry, I haven't talked about free will much before. I find it fascinating. I have watched videos of Dan Dennett on free will and consciousness. But I haven't got any of his books yet. I intend to at least get 'Freedom Evolves', 'Consciousness Explained' and 'Breaking the spell'.
I like discussing with you. You make very good points. So far at least Well addressed too.
PS: In case you or anyone else doesn't know. Inevitable means unavoidable and evitable means avoidable. So if there is no evitability we would basically be paralyzed because we couldn't avoid anything at all. So there is of course, still freedom and free will; as in evitability - in a deterministic universe.