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The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic
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RE: The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic
(February 14, 2014 at 1:19 am)whateverist Wrote: Oh sure because those are so common. We're always coming across immaterial minds. It only stands to reason that one of them would be perfect and uber uber. Sorry I doubted you.
as I said, I only have to show the concept doesn't have contradictions. the argument then proves it exists.

Quote:Now you're just pulling our legs, right? You can't point to one so .. he's everywhere. Right.
you really don't understand the significance of what I just said... tell me this, where are you in relation to your thoughts? since your thoughts are a part of you, you could answer everywhere. now, imagine that you created a fictional character. that character exists in your thoughts. can that character point to you? not unless you manifest yourself in your thoughts, but even then that's only a representation of you, not the real you. this is the philosophical view I have taken. we are a part of God's thoughts, and as such this explains many problems that I won't go into on this thread. the point is, God is everywhere relative to us because we are a part of his thoughts.

Quote:Well there you go then. He obviously does not exist.
since when does coherence require me to have knowledge of the origin of that knowledge? the origin doesn't matter, you can judge the coherence by confirming logical implications of the concept. that's why your question is irrelevant.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
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RE: The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic - by Rational AKD - February 14, 2014 at 2:00 am

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