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[MJ the Skeptical]

Who's "presumptuous" now?

I didn't dodge anything, your whole argument in this introduction thread is asinine. If you shift the burden of proof onto me in your first reply, then you are obviously a religious person. Do you have to say it directly? You did acknowledge later than you were Christian. It was in your custom title that you were Christian, until you changed it. And why would you claim it's my burden of proof? If you knew where the burden of proof rests you wouldn't show your "ignorance" on the topic.

This was done yesterday. It's just getting tiresome with you. Don't bother splitting this thread, there's nothing more to talk about with you.

I didn't say you had dodged, I said that you were being given an opportunity to.

I didn't try to shift the burden of proof, you misread.

You mean YOUR burden of proof

I explained this in very few words above so that you might see it. Once more: i said "your burden", meaning the burden you think exists, but doesn't....

I, and all Christians I know of, don't claim that an empirically proven God exists.

You say we carry a burden of proof to prove our claim that God exists, yet I can find no one in my religion that makes that claim.

My impression of this whole thread.


I'm not playing dodge-ball with you. Some creationists love to play that game with atheists. You want to play a semantic game of "I didn't say X, I said X with context." It reminds me of how Christians have a separate context for the bible. Very dishonest way to "debate". I have no interest in this kind of mental gymnastics you're playing. I can't believe you're still typing back here after I said this was over and nobody can get anymore out of it, but you still type back like this introduction thread is some game to win for your ego. And it's still nothing from you but; misdirection, obfuscation, burden of proof shifting and claiming non material beings can exist, when you admit that something needs to be material to exist.

If you do claim a god exists, you have the burden of proof, tough luck creationist. Now stop being fallacious trying to shift it.

And if you can't prove your god manifests in reality, it's no different than not existing, I already went through this.

But I guess this is what you were doing when I replied with that..