Order vs. Randomness

[Rayaan]

You're making a claim based on your understanding of Taoism. If your understanding is wrong, the claim is wrong. Telling you that you don't understand Taoism is addressing the point head on. And you admit you don't understand Taoism. So calling it "dodging" is just an insult and a loaded mischaracterization.

You dodged once again from explaining the specific point that I raised, which is that according to the Taoist view, the universe has an endless scalability of patterns, of ordering. But you contradict the Taoist view when you said that you consider elegance to be a property existing in a rather "disorganized pattern."

Secondly, I've provided two sources that support what I said, which is what you're supposed to refute in order to justify that I'm wrong in making the point above.

Trust in Nature as an Organic Pattern

The Chinese yin-yang conception of nature is an organic reproduction pattern of nature and the cosmos. Nature exists outside of and beyond human control. Taoists regard this human embedding in larger universal processes with wonder, awe, and deep appreciation.

In nature, there is an ordering - dizzying and exquisite in its variety - that exists endlessly. (Think of the infinitely proportioned, kaleidoscopic images of fractal geometry, and you'll begin to get a sense of the intricacy, beauty, and endless "scalability" of natural patterns in the Taoist view.)

This order, this series of resonances, is both indescribably vast and intricately interdependent. It is an order that includes other "makers' of order - like bees and humans. The associated notion from the poem "Desiderata" - that we are all children of the universe, on a par with the planets and the stars, and that the universe unfolds in the proper way whether or not we recognize it as doing so - comes close to providing a parallel with the Taoist reverence of nature and its patterns.

- The Complete Idiot's Guide to Taoism (p. 33)

And from Wikipeida:

Dao can be roughly thought of as the flow of the universe, or as some essence or pattern behind the natural world that keeps the universe balanced and ordered."

If you think that my understanding of the quotes above is a "misunderstanding" or you think that the quotes themselves are misinformation, then go ahead and prove it, if you can.

And if you can't do that, then don't waste your time trying to act as if you're right without presenting anything to support that even.