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The Flaw of Atheism
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RE: The Flaw of Atheism
(February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Atheists say "If God existed, he's evil because he lets bad things happen."
However the cause of sin is that he gave us all the greatest gift, free will. We can do what we want, he does not force anything upon our mind. If we choose to live a life of sin, it is our choosing. Man choose sin when Adam and Eve ate from the tree, they, by their own choice brought sin upon the world. God hates sin, but he said evil deeds must be punished, and he cannot go back on his word. So he sent his only son to die for our sins, to show us the price of our sin and to accept his free gift. God hates sin, but it is a product of man because he gave man the ability to do what he wants until death, when he is judged for what he's done. Since all sin, only accepting Christ in your heart can make you acceptant of God's Kingdom. Man choose sin, and God did all he could do to help them be absolved of it without invading their free will.
So atheists, argue over the existant of God all you want, but do not say he cannot exist because evil exists. The bible explains why it exists completely logically.

I think the 'flaw of atheism' is that ignorant people keep mis-defining it. But that's as may be.

Of course, there's an easy out to your false conundrum. Let us stipulate the following:

1. God loves us.

2. All God asks of us is that we do what He wants.

3. God wishes no one to come to harm ('harm' in this case we may define as suffering everlasting torture for finite transgressions).

4. God is the Creator.

5. God has given human beings free will.

I think that no theist would object to the above stipulations, except possibly the definition of 'harm', but we can split that rabbit later.

Now, given that we have free will, and God created all of us, why didn't God simply allow only the creation of those beings who would freely choose to do what God wants? In other words, you would have free will, but your free choice would always be in accord with God's desires. No evil, a God who provided the best possible outcome for those He claims to love...a tidy little package.

But no. It doesn't work that way. The omnipotent, omniscient Being who ostensibly loves us has given us a world replete with violence, hunger, disease, war, famine, etc etc. And theists have the temerity, the absolute brass-bound bollocks to say that we - puny, weak, ephemeral humans - have the ability to circumvent the power of the Creator of The Universe.

And you lot wonder why we laugh at you.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 26, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 26, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Cato - February 26, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Whateverist - February 26, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 26, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Napoléon - February 26, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Minimalist - February 26, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Napoléon - February 26, 2014 at 8:16 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Tonus - February 26, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 10:35 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by FifthElement - February 26, 2014 at 11:26 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by fr0d0 - February 27, 2014 at 4:19 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Faith No More - February 27, 2014 at 4:40 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by fr0d0 - February 27, 2014 at 4:53 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mystical - February 27, 2014 at 6:31 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Cyberman - February 26, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 10:27 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Minimalist - February 26, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 5:48 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by paulpablo - February 27, 2014 at 6:15 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 27, 2014 at 6:19 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Cato - February 27, 2014 at 7:02 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Alex K - February 27, 2014 at 11:53 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mister Agenda - February 27, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Alex K - February 27, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mister Agenda - February 27, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 12:25 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Assimilate - February 27, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by FreeTony - February 27, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by FreeTony - February 27, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Tonus - February 27, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Bob Kelso - March 3, 2014 at 8:32 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - March 3, 2014 at 8:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Bad Writer - February 27, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Bad Writer - February 27, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 28, 2014 at 4:52 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 2, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - March 2, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 2, 2014 at 8:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Bad Writer - February 27, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by LastPoet - February 27, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Tonus - February 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Tonus - February 27, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:55 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 4:02 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Jackalope - February 27, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 27, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 27, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 4:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Faith No More - February 27, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mudhammam - March 2, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Severan - February 27, 2014 at 5:09 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by *Deidre* - March 2, 2014 at 6:49 pm
The Flaw of Atheism - by Rampant.A.I. - March 2, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - March 2, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mudhammam - March 2, 2014 at 8:27 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Jackalope - March 2, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by LastPoet - March 2, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Jackalope - March 2, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by shep - March 3, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Severan - March 3, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Ksa - March 4, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - March 4, 2014 at 4:42 pm

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