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The Flaw of Atheism
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RE: The Flaw of Atheism
(February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Atheists say "If God existed, he's evil because he lets bad things happen."
However the cause of sin is that he gave us all the greatest gift, free will. We can do what we want, he does not force anything upon our mind. If we choose to live a life of sin, it is our choosing. Man choose sin when Adam and Eve ate from the tree, they, by their own choice brought sin upon the world.

Who put the forbidden fruit into the Garden? And why? Who allowed the Serpent to tempt Eve? And why? Who visited the consequences of their transgression on their descendants as well as them? How could they make an informed choice prior to being aware of good and evil?

(February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: God hates sin, but he said evil deeds must be punished, and he cannot go back on his word.

Creating a creature to tempt innocents into evil, or even to create a creature who would someday become such a tempter is clearly an evil act. Letting it have access to what were, in effect, children, is clearly an evil act (of omission, at least). Apparently God only hates evil deeds when its other people performing them.

(February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: So he sent his only son to die for our sins, to show us the price of our sin and to accept his free gift.

I don't have to kill anyone to give them a free gift, and they don't have to do anything to get it. This 'free gift' requires believing in absurdities and devoting your life to service of a deity. You seem to have a peculiar idea of what the words 'free' and 'gift' mean.

(February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: God hates sin, but it is a product of man because he gave man the ability to do what he wants until death, when he is judged for what he's done.

If we invented sin, what's with the Serpent?

(February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Since all sin, only accepting Christ in your heart can make you acceptant of God's Kingdom. Man choose sin, and God did all he could do to help them be absolved of it without invading their free will.

He's omnipotent and all he could do to grant us absolution was to send his son on a one-time tour of part of the Middle East and leave us only with copies of copies of accounts of his message? It's too much to ask for a message that could NOT have been fabricated by mere humans? At least then we'd be arguing over whether he's really the creator of the universe or just an advanced alien, not whether he exists at all.

(February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: So atheists, argue over the existant of God all you want, but do not say he cannot exist because evil exists. The bible explains why it exists completely logically.

Thanks for the opportunity to deconstruct that particular claim once again.

(February 27, 2014 at 4:19 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(February 26, 2014 at 10:47 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: What does that have to do with the post you quoted?

It's a literalist interpretation of the bible he's taking seriously.

Maybe he's just taking the tens of millions of Americans who are literalists, probably including the OP, seriously. How much time are you going to spend addressing random posts as if they are talking about your personal theology?

(February 27, 2014 at 5:48 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Watch this atheists:

I'm not able to view that from work, but thanks for not being a one-post wonder.
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The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 26, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 26, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Cato - February 26, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Whateverist - February 26, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 26, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Napoléon - February 26, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Minimalist - February 26, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Napoléon - February 26, 2014 at 8:16 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Tonus - February 26, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 10:35 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by FifthElement - February 26, 2014 at 11:26 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by fr0d0 - February 27, 2014 at 4:19 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Faith No More - February 27, 2014 at 4:40 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by fr0d0 - February 27, 2014 at 4:53 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mystical - February 27, 2014 at 6:31 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Cyberman - February 26, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 10:27 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Minimalist - February 26, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 5:48 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by paulpablo - February 27, 2014 at 6:15 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 11:37 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 27, 2014 at 6:19 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Cato - February 27, 2014 at 7:02 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Alex K - February 27, 2014 at 11:53 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mister Agenda - February 27, 2014 at 11:54 am
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RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 12:25 pm
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RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by FreeTony - February 27, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by FreeTony - February 27, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Tonus - February 27, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Bob Kelso - March 3, 2014 at 8:32 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - March 3, 2014 at 8:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Bad Writer - February 27, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Bad Writer - February 27, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 28, 2014 at 4:52 am
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 2, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - March 2, 2014 at 7:09 pm
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RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Bad Writer - February 27, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by LastPoet - February 27, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Tonus - February 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Tonus - February 27, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Simon Moon - February 27, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:55 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 4:02 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by truthBtold - February 27, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Jackalope - February 27, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - February 27, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 27, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by pocaracas - February 27, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 27, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 4:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by The Valkyrie - February 27, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Faith No More - February 27, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mudhammam - March 2, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Severan - February 27, 2014 at 5:09 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Kayenneh - February 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by *Deidre* - March 2, 2014 at 6:49 pm
The Flaw of Atheism - by Rampant.A.I. - March 2, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by JesusLover1 - March 2, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Mudhammam - March 2, 2014 at 8:27 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Jackalope - March 2, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by LastPoet - March 2, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Jackalope - March 2, 2014 at 8:40 pm
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RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Severan - March 3, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: The Flaw of Atheism - by Ksa - March 4, 2014 at 4:34 pm
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