RE: Fine tuning argument assessed
March 2, 2014 at 8:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2014 at 8:55 pm by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(March 1, 2014 at 2:11 pm)max-greece Wrote:Quote:You're making the classic mistake of appealing to authority instead of thinking for yourself. Such things as dark matter, black holes, and the Big Bang are pure BS. If you actually think about them you will see that they make zero sense. They are comparable to belief in some cosmic deity who is only concerned with a small group of people on a small plot of land on a small planet in the whole universe.
If we still lived in a Newtonian Universe I would agree with you. The problem is that physics is now beyond our pay grade. Appeals to logic are no longer valid - and ceased to be so when Einstein showed that time changes with speed (which makes no sense).
Since that moment physics has gone off on routes that are so alien to our in-built logic its mind boggling.
Whilst I have argued before on these forums that science is heading in the direction of religion in that we're told we can't understand it and we have to accept it that is not quite true.
Firstly there is the process of science and peer review. We take physics (particularly Quantum Physics these days) on the basis that it offers the best explanation we have and appears to have widescale support amongst the relevant science community.
It is, however, not treated as the gospel. Should science move on - and new predictions, models and explanation are made which replace those we currently hold then we go with those until such time as those in turn are replaced.
It is dangerous ground to simply surmise that Black holes, the big bang and so on are nonsense merely as they don't match your logic.
They may turn out to be ultimately wrong but right now the general consensus is that they are the best explanations we have.
There is nothing religious in this.
The Big Bang is a Catholic priest's explanation for the creation of the universe. A normal person will realize that it's pure BS if he thinks about it objectively. The fact that most people don't and won't simply indicates how brain-washed they are. But they are free to believe in it since it has no relevance to anything.
(March 2, 2014 at 10:07 am)LostLocke Wrote:(March 1, 2014 at 2:57 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If black holes did exist then they should have been able to have consumed all of the stellar material in their respective galaxies. The fact that galaxies exist disproves the idea of black holes.Actually, it disproves the fact that you understand basic physics and motion.
A black hole won't consume it's galaxy any more than a star will consume all its orbiting planets.
So the black hole theory states that the black hole will suck up anything that gets into its critical gravitational field. That makes the black hole even more powerful. So it keeps growing and its critical gravitational area gets larger and larger. So at some point the black hole will consume everything in its galaxy.