RE: Ok I admit it
March 3, 2014 at 7:08 am
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2014 at 7:09 am by JesusLover1.)
A metaphor my father likes to use:
God's grace and forgiveness are like if someone told you they had a new car in the driveway for you. If you just say you don't believe it's there and disregard it, it's your fault for not accepting the gift and trusting it's there, not the givers fault. It's the same with God. He gives the gift, but the person has to accept it and go see it for himself. I might have not said that perfectly, but my father often uses this one while he's preaching.
It's all because man ate from the tree and allowed sin into the world. Free will.
God's grace and forgiveness are like if someone told you they had a new car in the driveway for you. If you just say you don't believe it's there and disregard it, it's your fault for not accepting the gift and trusting it's there, not the givers fault. It's the same with God. He gives the gift, but the person has to accept it and go see it for himself. I might have not said that perfectly, but my father often uses this one while he's preaching.
(March 3, 2014 at 7:08 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(March 3, 2014 at 6:44 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I don't get it. I use many arguments that seemed so profound when my parents used them on me. What am I doing wrong? Guys just think. Look how vast and detailed our universe is. Look at the beauty, look at the wonder. Listen to the roar of the thunder, gaze at the majesty of the mountain ranges. How could it not have some creator, I understand maybe not the Christian God, but surely someone played a hand in it? If the universe just happened randomly, it's appearence would be spuratic, not rhyme or reason for anything. But despite our universe's flaws, it's clearly something awe-inspiring for the human mind to comprehend.
And look at earthquakes, diseases, parasites and all the little surprises that your god has concocted.
One of my favourites is a parasitic worm from Africa. Part of its life cycle involves living in the eyeball of its host, eventually sending the host blind.
Care to explain how that is part of your loving gods plan?
It's all because man ate from the tree and allowed sin into the world. Free will.
