(March 3, 2014 at 1:29 pm)discipulus Wrote: However fine the line may be in your opinion, you nontheless rightly conclude that it is a line. And I maintain it is one that cannot be justifiably crossed.In what way do you mean?
Because I think it comes down to whether or not a person can be called a Christian if he is committing such acts, or condoning them in some way. If you are saying that a person cannot be a Christian and still commit such acts, then it's the No True Scotsman fallacy. If you are saying otherwise, then we must determine where you are drawing the line. Or you may simply leave the question hanging.
Quote:I have stated no where here that a theist who molests and an atheist that molests are different. I would happily agree that when committing the act they both do so out of an evil lustful desire in their heart.Is that theist a True Theist?
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