RE: What deism has done for the world
March 3, 2014 at 3:32 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2014 at 3:41 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(March 2, 2014 at 10:45 am)discipulus Wrote:(March 2, 2014 at 10:14 am)DarkHorse Wrote: Are you saying it's only Christians who contribute to bettering the lives of children or humanity in general? You don't need to be a christian or have religion to do good in the world. I have known atheists who are more caring than these so called christ followers.
Not at all. Nor have I stated anywhere here that you have to be a christian or be religious to do "good" in the world.
What you say in the latter portion is not controversial either. I grant that some atheists do live more exemplary lives than some religious people.
What I have stated very plainly is that actions speak louder than words. One form of evidence for the Christian claims can be found in the indisputable fact that Christians have done more in the service of children since its founding than any other adherents of any other worldview, be it secular or religious. This is not up for debate. The facts are there for anyone to see.
Christians seem to suffer a compulsion to slap their brand name on any charity they're involved with. The efforts of those of us who don't care wheter the atheist or deist label gets attached to our good works are a little harder to keep track of.
(March 2, 2014 at 11:11 am)discipulus Wrote: To give an example of what I mean I refer you to the following:
Save the Children.
This large relief agency was founded by Eglantyne Jebb who also campaigned for social reform in this area. The Declaration of the Rights of the Child was adopted by the League of Nations as well. She also pioneered the Child Sponsorship program.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eglantyne_Jebb
This is the kind of evidence I am talking about. I am talking about men and women who refuse to talk about the problems of humanity and actually did something about them and lived in accordance with what Christ taught i.e. that we should love one another and take care of the orphan and the widow and the helpless.
Oh, you meant anecdotal evidence, not statistically-sound studies. Good, because there hasn't been what I would consider a sound study on the topic. Since we're a small percentage of the population a couple should do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Me...Foundation
(March 2, 2014 at 4:12 pm)Cinjin Wrote:(March 2, 2014 at 11:11 am)discipulus Wrote: This is the kind of evidence I am talking about. I am talking about men and women who refuse to talk about the problems of humanity and actually did something about them and lived in accordance with what Christ taught i.e. that we should love one another and take care of the orphan and the widow and the helpless.
You really think that if you continually remind people about the little bit of good that some christians do, that we'll forget about the beast behind the curtain? Christianity is not and has NEVER been a cure-all by any stretch of the imagination. Even the credit your religion gets for helping children is nullified by the fact that there is always an agenda behind it. It's extremely difficult to imprint adults. The malleable mind of a child can be taught to believe anything and therefore, makes them a target for the cult of jesus.
You insult the intelligence of everyone here by glossing over the atrocities of christians by using that tired cop-out, "they weren't TRUE christians." Well, if history has taught us anything it's that Christianity always speaks for itself and that cherry picking the tiny bit of sweet corn out of a turd does not make it any more edible.
The USA is about 70% Christian. If half of these people were 'true Christians' we wouldn't have povertyin America; but they're happy to count all of them when they're trying to claim they should get their way because they're the majority.