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What deism has done for the world
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RE: What deism has done for the world
(March 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Given how confusing the bible is,

Indeed, there are things in the bible that can give rise to confusion. Many things which have been studied by theologians for centuries still remain unclear. I see this as clear cut proof that men are just that.....men. We are not God and we see through a glass dimly. We are fallible. God's thoughts are not ours. His ways are not our ways. We know enough, and God has made enough clear that we know what we need to know, but that is not to say that we have, can, or will ever know it all. We have always been and always will be less than He.

(March 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Chad32 Wrote: and that whatever deity you guys are worshiping doesn't seem to put much effort into making things clear, it seems the bible is a very poor source of wisdom, morality, or really anything else.

Aww.....come on Chad....really? Have you actually and sincerely sat down and studied the effects that the Bible has had on humanity? There is much that can be said about the Bible. To try and do so here simply would not do it justice. But if you like, I am sure you can research the matter online.


(March 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Chad32 Wrote: It's not helpful in getting across what it wants to get across.

Over two billion people seem to think that it is at least in one way helpful. And that way is to point us to Jesus Christ. The Bible is not a book on social reform or climate change or anything like that. Nor does it speak specifically to many of the issues we face in the world today. However, within its pages are timeless principles that people from all ages and all nations and all races have benefited from. It tells us what is fundamentally wrong with the human race but does not stop there. It tells us that God has done something about it. It points us to Jesus. Through Jesus Christ, the individual is transformed from the inside out and in turn, becomes a bastion for social reform.

Have we not seen what happens when Christ-less ideologies are used as platforms for social reform? It ends in the degradation of the sanctity of human life ultimately. So I urge you to examine more closely the impact of Christianity on the world.

(March 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Chad32 Wrote: It doesn't even help people find evidence for Yahweh/Jesus, since we're 2-3000 years after people started writing it and we're still debating over and over if he's real or not.

The scripture says that when the fullness of time had come, Christ came into the world. That means He came at the perfect time. Heck! I would have loved to been there when Jesus was walking on the earth, but I do not despair over that. In fact, I rejoice, for I have Christ living in me at this very moment! So in a sense we now who live, live in a privileged age, for we live in the dispensation of grace where Christ will come and take up residence in your heart without hesitation. But you must believe He is, and the He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.


(March 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Not everyone believes Yahweh is real,

You are right.

(March 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Chad32 Wrote: and those that do are split amongst tens of thousands of different denominations. Some differences being minor, and some major.

The existence of Christian denominations should not be a cause for despair. It is indisputable, there are many denominations within Christianity. Catholicism and Protestantism are the two main ones and within protestantism you have Lutheran, Reformed, Anabaptist, and Anglican. These are the main four.

The existence of the large number of denominations is primarily due to people, unsurprisingly, acting like people generally do and instead of coming together in the Spirit of love and unity, would rather break off and associate with them that are like minded.

This is the biggest testimony against Christians that I think exists in the world today. But notice what I said, it is a testimony against "Christians", not Christianity. For Christ never taught or implied that His church would be divided, and in a sense it is not. For The Church, when used as a proper noun, refers to the entire body of believers that have ever lived and will ever live. They are one in Spirit and the Lord knows whose are His.

Let it not be forgotten, that not all of these people in these various denominations are members of The Body of Christ. For there are many that are wolves in sheep's clothing and it will not be known who these are until the time comes for Christ to separate the wheat from the chaff.

I hope I have been of some help to you with what I have written.
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What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 1, 2014 at 11:30 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Chad32 - March 1, 2014 at 11:33 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by truthBtold - March 1, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Minimalist - March 1, 2014 at 11:48 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by bennyboy - March 2, 2014 at 3:08 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Alex K - March 2, 2014 at 3:56 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Minimalist - March 2, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 2, 2014 at 3:28 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 3, 2014 at 11:18 am
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 3, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by *Deidre* - March 3, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Minimalist - March 2, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 3, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Chad32 - March 3, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 3, 2014 at 4:53 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by Chad32 - March 3, 2014 at 11:19 am
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by Chad32 - March 3, 2014 at 3:20 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by Chad32 - March 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 4, 2014 at 1:36 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 4, 2014 at 12:56 pm
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