What deism has done for the world

[discipulus]

Spare me your tone and lecture, discipulus. I've heard this nonsense preached to me all of my life. And by nonsense, I mean that a Christian will say something clearly judgmental against another person, and then when that person is offended, will back track, then stating that he or she isn't judging anyone.

Your "faith" has given you a license to insult others. I've been kind to you, explaining my position and yet you subtly imply that my view is wrong and you are right, because YOU are a Christian.

This is nothing new from Christians. They are self righteous and offensive and use their faith as an excuse to judge others.

Whatever.

I am sorry you feel the way you do. I guess you were expecting me to condone sin. I do not. That does not mean I do not care for you or want only the best for you. If a brother says to his sister....hey look sis, you know...some of the things you have been doing arent good and in the long run will hurt you, he does so because he cares about his sister and does not want to see her hurt. If i just kind of glossed over these things and told you what made you feel good and all warm and fuzzy inside then I would not be acting in love.

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Premarital sex is a sin.

Right, so you've made the unjustified assumption that the sex here is premarital. So you're still operating from a basis of ignorance.

And yes saying Jesus did nothing is a truth claim and as such whoever makes such a claim has the burden of substantiating the claim. Unless that is just their opinion to which I would say you are entitled to it.

Only if you can demonstrate that Jesus existed to begin with; the claim that he did nothing is only a claim that is possibly untrue if he existed, since things that don't exist do nothing just as a matter of course. Since you haven't gotten near fulfilling your burden of proof as to Jesus' existence (and godhood, given the scope of the conversation we're having. You'd need to fulfill the burden of proof on both of those claims) then by default it cannot be accepted, and therefore no burden entails on the claim that Jesus did nothing, since his existence hasn't been established for him to be able to do anything.

So, all you'd need to do to be correct is to prove that Jesus existed, and that he was god. I'll leave you to that.

DeistPaladin stated that if Christians are right then Christ watched everything that happened and did nothing about it. So here he is assuming Jesus exists and then argues that He did nothing at all about the evil atrocities aforementioned. So in response to this I do not have to prove Jesus existed at all for He has to assume it for the argument to even make sense.

For in what way could it be said that Jesus failed to do something if He did not exist in the first place? That does not even make sense.

Since he has stated that Jesus did nothing at all then he has to substantiate the claim, or say it is just his opinion, or retract the statement altogether. He can't do the first, which leaves him with it just being his opinion to which I would say he is entitled to it. If he retracts the statement then there is no issue.