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What deism has done for the world
RE: What deism has done for the world
(March 4, 2014 at 12:29 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: discipulus, as to your reply to me. While you (may) mean well, if a god exists, you are not him. If a god exists, you have not been elected to speak for him. If I talk to another theist, he will admonish me in a different way than you, and if I speak to a deist, he will have something else to say, different than the theist. I could speak to 100 different people, all speaking on behalf of their religion, all thinking they have a right to chastise me in the name of a god.

You are guessing at best as to what YOU think a god would be like.

If a god exists, you have not been elected to speak for him. Religion breeds a false sense of certainty and no offense, arrogance. Since you believe in sin, then you too are a sinner yes? Ah, a sinner telling me, another poor sinner, how to conduct my life.
That is the biggest problem of Christianity. Many people instructing others how to pull the weeds out of their own yards while their yards are overrun by them.

Can I speak with you via PM?

(March 4, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Just a couple of comments.

Pre-marital sex. At the time the rules against it were prevalent, most marriages were arranged, and the vast majority of people were married before they reached their late teens. Now most people don't get married until well into their twenties, and marrying younger is regarded as unwise. A LOT of other rules have been tossed by Christians because times have changed, why not this one?

Jefferson Bible. Way more convincing to doubters than the regular Bible, doesn't involve swallowing camels. Any particular reason Jefferson's version isn't regarded as adequate for Christianity?

It is not adequate because it excludes the accounts of the virgin birth and Christ's bodily resurrection from the grave on the Sunday morning following His crucifixion. If those two events never happened then our faith is in vain and Christianity along with the Bible can be relegated to the book shelf along with the various religious texts of the world's religions. Jefferson being a deist sought to remove all accounts of the miraculous from the New Testament essentially stripping it and watering it down. He essentially made the bible conform to his views instead of conforming his views to the bible. A grave error many have made over the centuries.
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What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 1, 2014 at 11:30 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Chad32 - March 1, 2014 at 11:33 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by truthBtold - March 1, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Minimalist - March 1, 2014 at 11:48 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by Alex K - March 2, 2014 at 3:56 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Minimalist - March 2, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 2, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Assimilate - March 2, 2014 at 3:58 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 2, 2014 at 7:49 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by Whateverist - March 2, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 2, 2014 at 9:06 am
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by DeistPaladin - March 2, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 3, 2014 at 11:18 am
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by Tonus - March 3, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 3, 2014 at 1:29 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 3, 2014 at 10:12 am
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by *Deidre* - March 3, 2014 at 9:15 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by *Deidre* - March 3, 2014 at 10:53 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 3, 2014 at 11:10 am
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by Mister Agenda - March 4, 2014 at 12:25 pm
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RE: What deism has done for the world - by discipulus - March 4, 2014 at 1:06 pm
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