How DOES the GOP do it? (part II)

[DeistPaladin]

Okay, I was asked specifically what stuff I believed about Bush and what stuff I didn't, not about specific news sources etc.

My point in asking you to name names for reputable pundits, political leaders or anyone with a serious following on the left who made such crackpot statements about Bush planning another terrorist attack to take a 3rd term is to see if these ideas actually had traction on the left or of they were just some-crazy-guy-with-a-blog.

As I said, there are crazy people everywhere. 9/11 Truthers were certainly vocal during the W administration and you won't hear me defending them. They were and are conspiracy nuts. But they only had an audience with other conspiracy nuts. There were, as far as I can tell, no prominent liberal political leaders or pundits that were also Truthers.

Now compare this with Glenn Beck and his following, just to use the most extreme example. Glenn Beck had a prominent cable TV show for years and still, after finally being fired by Fox, has his own radio broadcast. Glenn Beck was the darling of the Tea Baggers and the Tea Baggers control much of the modern GOP.

Name names for me as to who the liberal analogs to Glenn Beck or Andrew Britebart are. Some-idiot-with-a-blog doesn't count. Some-podcaster-with-a-dozen-listeners doesn't count. It has to be someone prominent, published and respected in liberal circles.

However if you think that a single more life would of been saved in New Orleans if it had happened when Obama was president, I think that you are part of the group who's agenda is to bash one side and support the other no matter the reality of the situation.

I'm hardly a fan of Obama but you glossed over the point of Bush appointing a personal friend with no qualifications to FEMA and the Louisiana National Guard, which would have been useful in such an emergency, was in Iraq. These points alone place some responsibility on W's shoulders.

Compare and contrast this with Republican never-ending screeches about "Benghazi". I don't even know what the "scandal" even is or what they think Obama should or shouldn't have done.

Bush got blamed for everything little thing that happened during his presidency. Literally everything.

As did Carter, Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton and now Obama. Part of this goes with the job description. That much I'll grant you.

but if you don't remember this you may have been seeing the whole process through the glasses of bias.

The burden of proof is on you.

When you say both sides don't do it, what exactly do you think the left doesn't do? At best you can bring up a example that is extremely specific to what's going on right now. However do you think they don't participate in slander or propaganda? They don't lie about the other side? They don't flip flop in order to make a point? Yeah right.

Well, let's talk about the hatred of Bush vs. the hatred of Obama.

Most of the hatred of Bush was based on the fact that he lied us into a war. Most of the insults I heard in liberal circles was that he was a "war criminal". These comments were considered "shrill" by many others but guess what? He WAS a war criminal. He REALLY DID lie us into a war. We really DID attack Iraq on false pretense in a war that was really about enriching his friends. It's all out now and part of history. We were pooh-poohed as "shrill" but it turns out we were right.

Now compare this to the hatred of Obama. He's called a "socialist" (he's not even a liberal). He's called a "dictator" (he's been very accommodating to the right). He's said not to have been born here (sorry but the Birthers really do have a substantial following in the Tea Bagger movement). And how often do they need to bring up Benghazi?

Dilemma for Republicans
Because a significant portion of Republican voters and/or their Tea Party supporters believe Obama is not eligible to hold public office (see Opinion surveys section), Republicans sometimes found themselves caught in a dilemma between losing support or damaging their credibility.[181][182] They had "to walk the fine line of humoring conspiracy-minded supporters without explicitly questioning Obama's legitimacy..."[183] Other Republicans, including former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty and former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum, however, have plainly rejected these claims.[184]
An example of these situations is Mike Castle, then Representative for Delaware, who ran in 2010 for the Senate seat vacated by Vice President Joe Biden. At a town hall meeting, Castle was confronted by constituents who jeered him for insisting that Obama is a citizen of the United States.[185] Castle, one of the leading Republican moderates in the House, was later defeated by Tea Party-backed Christine O'Donnell in the Republican primary,[186][187] who herself later lost the general election to Democratic nominee Chris Coons.

In sum:
Yes, there are crazies on the left. They're the fringe and nobody significant pays any attention to them.

There are crazies on the right. They run the GOP.

Both!
Sides!
Don't!