Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels

[Bucky Ball]

Actually Gary Habermas is "the expert" on nothing. He's a complete idiot. No mainstream scholar does anything but laugh at the fool. I went to an "On Guard" conference, and asked him a question, and he got pissed off, and said "I don't know". He's a COMPLETE joke, as is William L. Craig. If those two are any indication of the rest on your list, you're in big trouble. Actually THE expert on the resurrection is Dr. BB Scott, at the Tulsa seminary, who wrote "The Trouble with Resurrection".

(Gary Habermas ... OMF'nG). Hahahaha
Next you'll be telling us to read Lee Bullshit Stroebel.

Funny anecdote... I had lunch with my paster and Gary Habermas (they were school buddies) when I was about 14. He told me he was impressed by my inquisitiveness and that I could really make a difference for the Lord someday.

I guess to some degree he was correct--just not to the effect that he envisioned.

One of the best books I ever read was the famous Jewish Torah scholar, and philosopher Martin Buber's "Good and Evil", (which is hilarious as Catholics push his "I and Thou" ... if they only knew what was in his other books). He didn't even intend to do so, but ... in Part ii of "Good and Evil" he completely destroys any notion that "salvation", "Original Sin", or the tradition of the "fall" makes any sense in the context of ancient Hebrew culture, and writings. Christianity (or rather Paul of Tarsus) made it all up.