RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
March 17, 2014 at 5:03 pm
(This post was last modified: March 17, 2014 at 5:30 pm by fr0d0.)
(March 17, 2014 at 4:59 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:(March 17, 2014 at 4:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: lol
Superstition: unfounded belief resulting in irrational behaviours
Explain "excessively credulous belief in and reverence for the supernatural"
That was the google definition of superstition. Can't really explain it pe se.
For shame


(March 17, 2014 at 4:59 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Here's what I don't understand. If you read an article in "christianity today" or insert name of religious writing here journal, which told of a miracle, you'd be skeptical right? You'd quite rightly question whether it was legit, or merely propaganda to support the agenda of the author. Or even if the people writing it were merely mistaken, caught up in religious fervor. It happens.
In which case, what led you to believe that the bible is true, not merely in part, but in full (assuming that's what you believe).
It seems to me that you are applying laudibly stringent levels of skepticism to your own experience, whilst being much happier to accept the experience of those with less education, less credulity, about whom we have at best handed down reports, from 2000 years ago!!
For eg. Do you believe in the biblical account of pentecost? Of speaking in tongues etc? And do you believe that what goes on in pentacostal churches today is equally legit? And if not, why not?
I saw Roger Forster speak a few times. The guy is incredibly grounded, intelligent and sincere. Of anyone I think he'd be the one I'd be inclined to believe, and he does share seemingly supernatural experiences.
I have friends who tell me that they've seen flesh and bone move. I don't believe them.
I believe the bible is true because it isn't the supposed magic that's the point. The point is what is inferred from the action. I personally find it hard to take a perspective acknowledging God. It's foreign to us I think.
I believe the bible in full. I'm a literalist. Ancient people far more conversant in this subject sure are vastly more qualified than me. My reality is heavily skewed by blind materialism. You can't blame us... massive leaps in technological understanding have wowed us.
I used to go to an AOG church. I spoke in tongues. The glossolalia kind? It was kinda nice. The meetings felt freeform and natural. Speaking other languages and having them interpreted: bullshit.
(March 17, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(March 17, 2014 at 4:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I don't trust feelings or coincidences to inform anything. I'm incredibly skeptical and need to understand reason behind everything. People fascinate me.
I had to be more than convinced in the biblical evidence to believe.
That's an oxymoron. Unless you're privy to information nobody else possesses, you're not a Christian because of "evidence." (What's "biblical evidence"? Is it special somehow from empirical evidence? Like, uh, "revelation"?)
It's emotional attachment, plain and simple. There's no such thing as a Christian skeptIc.
No the information is as plain for you to see as it is me. It's only a question of understanding.
I have no emotional attachment at all. Why would I? How does that work? Please explain.