(March 17, 2014 at 7:35 pm)discipulus Wrote:(March 17, 2014 at 7:32 pm)Asimm Wrote: All your doing is making shit up to try and reinforce your weak argument.
There's no way to step out of our 5 senses, no shit, there's still plenty of things based off certain scientific findings that work to a fucking "T", and it's sure as hell not from faith.
Actually it is called "critical thinking" and "logical reasoning"....
Cool glad you agree!
Quote:Science itself is based upon certain philosophical presuppositions that are axiomatic in nature and that cannot be proven.
way to word it to fit your argument. Lets ignore the fact that nothing can be proven 100 percent ever, what science does is aim for that 99 percentile.
Quote:Science "works" as you say, because scientists believe in those axioms despite not being able to prove they are true (definition of an axiom). They believe, trust in, place faith in these axioms in order to even do science.
I get it, you want us to admit it's faith. Faith is believing something without the evidence to back it up. What science does is eliminate the need for faith, and having supporting evidence to come to a conclusion.
Quote:Of course they would never say they exercise faith in these things because they see that as being too "unscientific". How ironic that God has made the world in such a way as to make faith necessary for science to even be possible!
lol!
Quote:P.s. saying science works because science works is arguing in a circle. It is like saying the Bible is the word of God because the Bible says it is the Word of God. If you would not accept the latter, you cannot accept the former. They both are tautologous.
No, science has proven to work through experimentation and results. Let me know when your book does something better then being my backup toilet paper when supplies run low.