RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
March 18, 2014 at 1:09 am
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2014 at 1:10 am by Mudhammam.)
(March 18, 2014 at 12:38 am)psychoslice Wrote:(March 18, 2014 at 12:25 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Sure it is. You're confusing what love is with what it feels like to experience love. Science can't tell you exactly what it feels like to be a cat but that doesn't mean we can't know everything else there is to know about cats! Perhaps it's an experience we could simulate if the entire neural network of a cat's brain was mapped out and thoroughly understood.
Yes but unless there is an independent reason to think this is on the right track, and maybe it is, than all you have to go on are the unreliable guesses and assumptions people make in interpreting the causes of their own experiences--which (and it sounds counter-intuitive), they're (and we're) far from experts in doing.
I think we all make our own world, everyone has there own concept of what the world is, at the end of the day everything is subjective, what is out there is part of all that is connected, we only see what we are able to see through our senses. But the Cosmos cannot be reduced to what we think it should be, or how we think it works, of course we can find a lot out, but again its only what our senses allows us, beyond that, WE KNOW NOTHING.
I feel that there are some who can sense what is beyond the mind, after all we are all connected, this experience is then put into the best language that we can use, the experience is beyond the mind, and so we can only use metaphors, and pointers that point another to that which was experienced.
I think most atheist miss out on this experience, for the reason that they are too much into the mind, if there is anything else that is above the mind they will always miss out. Yes so we need to keep an open mind and not a closed mind.
You're saying that there's sensual experiences outside of the mind? Where do those reside? In invisible jars tied to the ears? All experiences begin in the mind but not all descriptions of these experiences are equally helpful in understanding their structures or root causes. That's what science is for. It cuts through everyone's BS.