(March 18, 2014 at 1:09 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(March 18, 2014 at 12:38 am)psychoslice Wrote: I think we all make our own world, everyone has there own concept of what the world is, at the end of the day everything is subjective, what is out there is part of all that is connected, we only see what we are able to see through our senses. But the Cosmos cannot be reduced to what we think it should be, or how we think it works, of course we can find a lot out, but again its only what our senses allows us, beyond that, WE KNOW NOTHING.
I feel that there are some who can sense what is beyond the mind, after all we are all connected, this experience is then put into the best language that we can use, the experience is beyond the mind, and so we can only use metaphors, and pointers that point another to that which was experienced.
I think most atheist miss out on this experience, for the reason that they are too much into the mind, if there is anything else that is above the mind they will always miss out. Yes so we need to keep an open mind and not a closed mind.
You're saying that there's sensual experiences outside of the mind? Where do those reside? In invisible jars tied to the ears? All experiences begin in the mind but not all descriptions of these experiences are equally helpful in understanding their structures or root causes. That's what science is for. It cuts through everyone's BS.
Science may think they cut through the bullshit, but what they end up with is their own bullshit, that is proven through their own conclusions, of what bullshit they have already discovered, in the end its all bullshit. This bullshit only has meaning to us as humans, but the fact is we as humans can never know what is beyond the bullshit, we are really, stuck in bullshit.
