RE: How flexible is the principle of causality?
March 18, 2014 at 8:21 am
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2014 at 8:23 am by tor.)
(March 18, 2014 at 8:14 am)Alex K Wrote:(March 18, 2014 at 7:25 am)tor Wrote: I as a physicist clarify that uncertainty principle doesn't give you proof of true randomness.
Can you just for fun clarify what you mean by true randomness? I as a physicist suspect that it is impossible to prove such a thing to begin with. You can show that there are no measurable correlations. When you do that, you will find some, but they should get weaker as you keep measuring.
True randomness is when distribution is uniform and statistically independent and is decided upon the action.
For instance if a computer will create 10 random numbers on the fly and give em to me or just give me 10 random numbers which were generated yesterday there would be no difference but in second option it is predetermined. So randomness can be either true(generated upon the action) or pre determined(looks random but is set in stone). We don't know which one can never know.
(March 18, 2014 at 8:20 am)bennyboy Wrote:(March 18, 2014 at 7:25 am)tor Wrote: I as a physicist clarify that uncertainty principle doesn't give you proof of true randomness. All it does is show that we can't know the future 100% certain. But not knowing the outcome doesn't prove it's random.Wow, it's almost like I just said that a couple posts ago.
Quote:Not crazy just stupid and false.Pretty dismissive for a guy who's just parroted what I said yesterday. I'd be offended, but since I don't know if you could have turned out otherwise, I do not know whether it's right to blame you for being a hostile prick.
We don't have free will so don't blame me. What did I say and what does it have to do with dualism which I think is bullshit?
Here is why it's bullshit btw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS4PW35-Y00