(March 18, 2014 at 10:25 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: An exhibition of irrational certitude in irrational ideas.
Interesting. I see that definition no where in the dictionary......
faith [feyth] Show IPA
noun
1.
confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2.
belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3.
belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4.
belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5.
a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith. -http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faith
I do not know if you were joking or serious. Hard to tell with you sometimes. What reference did you get your definition from?
(March 18, 2014 at 10:25 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Then clearly you're not using the term 'faith' consistently.
Faith as I have been using it simply means to place firm trust in something.
(March 18, 2014 at 10:25 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Does this necessitate irrational certitude in our cognitive faculties? No it does not unless we're claiming infallibility. Our cognitive faculties could be misrepresenting what the world actually is. Or so a snake would probably argue (or a Christian for that matter). Does it involve an irrational idea? No it does not because this would be self-defeating.
But you trust in your cognitive faculties though? Yes or no?
(March 18, 2014 at 10:25 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: We don't unless we test them out in the world... in which case it's self-defeating to outright deny the existence of objects (even if they're illusory) that thoughts and words represent to us.
Even if you "test" logic and science by using them in the real world, you cannot use this to say they are reliable.. To do so would be to argue in a circle.