Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]

[MindForgedManacle]

Thanks for the correction about my misuse of the word.

No probs.

To be clear, you aren't saying that God is solely physical right?

Assuming he exists (which I don't believe), I leave that an open question. I'm not even sure what 'non-physical' is supposed to mean if one isn't talking about abstract objects.

There have been differing views on faith, sure. I fully acknowledge that. You haven't addressed my objection that they either a. don't address the route to belief , or b. are simply incorrect.

I did address them.

They actually do, most notably Kant and Kierkegaard. For the latter, go read his book "Fear and Trembling", which is all about Kierkegaard's unique take on the story of Abraham and Isaac, and the latter's existential dilemma (in Kierkegaard's eyes) on the road to faith in obeying God's command.

Secondly - and I've pointed this out seriously like 6 times to you with no response -, you're assuming there is a "the Christian view" on this topic by which you can adjudicate who is definitively wrong. This is both arrogant and indefensible, even on a historic ground, which was my point in bringing up those 4 Christian philosophers, 3 of which were very influential on Christian theology.

The standing of the philosophers bears no relation to their correctness.

And no where did I claim it did. As I've repeatedly noted, this was brought up in the context of me rebutting your claim to some "true" Christian view on the relation between faith and rationality by demonstrating there were major Christian thinkers who flatly rejected this claim.

Much of philosophy, I find, is simply wrong. It lacks basic common sense answers.

Again, this is kind of a stupid objection to a discipline, especially when that discipline underpins and developed the very things you believe in.

Why should you expect "basic, common sense answers"? Based on that criterion, you might as well reject all of science. Physics says time does not actually exist? Not a basic, common sense answer so I guess you reject it. Neuroscience indicates our decisions are predictable via brain imaging seconds before we become consciously aware of them? Naw, no a common sense, basic answer.

For me, the mainstream view as presented by Ryft is true for me and most Christians that I know. So in my immediate sphere of experience it is true, and national and international speakers confirm it also. I don't find, therefore, that I'm either arrogant or blind on the subject.

Self-refuting, especially given that you've essentially given me my point. You and Ryft are ensconced in a socio-religious moray wherein your peers (and necessarily narrow experience) affirm that X is the true view of the religion. But when this entrenchment is revealed and demonstrated to be no such thing (even historically), you have no rebuttal to speak of, save responding that "it's not the proper view". Classic no true Scotsman. We can all ad hoc away to justify our preconceptions, so yours is a fundamentally weak position if you must continually resort to it.