RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
March 19, 2014 at 2:11 am
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2014 at 2:16 am by fr0d0.)
(March 18, 2014 at 11:32 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote:Quote:There have been differing views on faith, sure. I fully acknowledge that. You haven't addressed my objection that they either a. don't address the route to belief , or b. are simply incorrect.
I did address them.
They actually do, most notably Kant and Kierkegaard. For the latter, go read his book "Fear and Trembling", which is all about Kierkegaard's unique take on the story of Abraham and Isaac, and the latter's existential dilemma (in Kierkegaard's eyes) on the road to faith in obeying God's command.
Secondly - and I've pointed this out seriously like 6 times to you with no response -, you're assuming there is a "the Christian view" on this topic by which you can adjudicate who is definitively wrong. This is both arrogant and indefensible, even on a historic ground, which was my point in bringing up those 4 Christian philosophers, 3 of which were very influential on Christian theology.
You have never addressed them. You don't even start to address the subject at hand, because you have no understanding of it. I know that those philosophers disagree with the mainstream view. That's pretty much their point given their discipline to explore all alternatives. They happen to be wrong, and this is widely agreed. I have little interest in philosophy because it is mostly nonsensical naval gazing. The subject here is theology, and the mainstream view contradicts the 4 'major' protagonists of philosophy... So what!?
In not assuming that this is the Christian view as you keep arrogantly asserting. I know it is. Through study of my subject. I'll not saying that it's the only view. There are plenty people who believe irrationally. It may not be the philosophical view, but who cares? Christians certainly don't.
Ryft would explain it to you in your own discipline, and I was trying to link you with him but he's offline at the moment.