(March 19, 2014 at 3:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I presented the reasoning. Your counter was "this is not true because I have these examples that disagree, even though your quote already discounted them". I see no reasoning from you at all.
As I said, begging the question. My counter was more like "Claiming a definitive Christian view on the rationality of faith is absurd given these examples of MAJOR Christian thinkers who rejected such a claim". You presented no good reasoning at all, you simply said they happen to be wrong. The closest thing you gave was Ryft's account, which this whole thing has been a response to, since you've seemingly just been referencing it.
Quote:Never did I claim exclusivity, but that seems to be your point. Great. Let's move on.
Oh, so all those times you were claiming there was only one Christian view on this - which you later modified to only one "true" view on this - you were just mispeaking? Right.
Bit it's worse than that. The acceptance that faith can - or must be irrational - is VERY common. After all, what's the most common response Christians give when something tragic or appalling happens, and people ask "Why did God allow this?"
Oh right, the usual answer is "You've just got to have faith." In other words, rationality is not a requirement of faith for many, if not most, Christians, and certainly not at all times. Based on your 'reasoning', you must accept this as the true Christian view given its prevalence.
