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Pull up a chair
RE: Pull up a chair
How easily you “free” thinkers avoid challenges to your atheistic worldview by falling back on your irrelevant clichés. Let’s count those made since my last post, shall we?

1) There is no evidence. For general revelation, the whole of reality is the evidence from which we deduce a basic understanding of the Divine. For special revelation, the various artifacts, and accounts serve as the subjects for interpretation and dispute. Asserting that there is no evidence is simply wrong. The only questions are whether the evidence applies and how strong that evidence is.

2) You assume the conclusion in advanceEvery hypothesis is an advanced conclusion for which you test. Positing divine action in the beginning is no guarantee of the final interpretation. Some miracles prove to be naturally occurring or fraudulent. That is not to say that some believers search for and cling to anything they feel supports their hope. This fault also applies to atheists that instantly dismiss any supernatural claim because it does not fit within a naturalistic paradigm.

3) The original Christians weren’t very bright, i.e “primitive goatherders”.Clearly some members of the early Christian community were highly literate and educated, a rarity for the times, since they produced written accounts. Anyone that argues that Saint Paul wasn’t very bright cannot be taken seriously.

4) The many ‘conflicting’ religious traditions proves they are all bullshit.There is some truth to this, but not much. For nearly all major religions and the late pagan ones, the results of general revelation are overall consistent. Moreover, the mystical traditions within each religion tend to converge on key concepts, like Huxley’s “perennial philosophy”. With respect to special revelation my own denomination is very ecumenical, focusing on orthopraxy rather than orthodoxy. What people do with their beliefs is much more important than the beliefs themselves. An atheist that rails against “In God We Trust” is being every bit as much of an asshole as a loudmouthed bible-thumper.

5) Religious believers resort to special pleading.It is not special pleading to approach something according to the nature of the thing under consideration. When it comes to God, He is not just another thing within a world of things, but is the One that serves as the very basis for and unity of the plurality.

Please. Atheist twaddle is SO annoying.
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Pull up a chair - by discipulus - March 17, 2014 at 5:52 pm
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RE: Pull up a chair - by discipulus - March 18, 2014 at 5:46 pm
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RE: Pull up a chair - by Mudhammam - March 18, 2014 at 10:16 pm
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