Is Hell or Prison the best cure for immorality?

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You are talking about God as if he lived in a society and was elected as president. You are dramatically downplaying even the most common perceptions about god. You are tossing out every single quality and action to replace god with some sort of Olympian ruler ship like Zeus.

Yes, I'm holding god to exactly the same moral standard I would hold a human being to, and you're trying to get me to hold him to a lesser standard, because that's the only one you can use and still find god to be morally sufficient in any area.

Must we really start on the ignostic level before we progress? If you do not even accept the most basics of my position towards god then you are not arguing against my claim. You are just making strawman arguments.

If I accepted your claim, where would our point of disagreement be? That's what I'm saying, I don't accept outright, based on nothing but your assertion, that god has earned the right to be sovereign over us. Your next move should be to demonstrate your initial claim, not just insult my intelligence. That's not an argument.