(March 20, 2014 at 2:19 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote:If you are saying that God is a demiurge as spoken of in the gnostic tradition, I wouldn't trust him with anything that has to do with morals at all.(March 20, 2014 at 10:16 am)Esquilax Wrote: Couple things: one, if we're talking about a just hell, we can't be talking about any of the religious ones, because an eternity of any kind of punishment isn't just, nor can it be a cure for anything- as you allude to in your thread title- because it's clearly not there to get anyone better. It's there as retribution for not staying in line.
Secondly, does a punishment devised by an entity that assumes power for itself without ever having to earn it, who excludes the possibility of ever being recused or losing any of that power no matter its abuses, who requires no consent in order to govern you, and assumes a worldwide jurisdiction independent of any kind of legal checks and balances, sound just to you? If any person did it, you'd consider that an unacceptable dictatorship; why does whatever form of god get a free pass?
I am talking about a hell where people earn their rightful punishment for. A rightful amount of time. Also God has the right to do anything if it is a demiurge so God has earned his sovereignty rightfully so.
What do you mean, 'if' it is a demiurge, by the way?
Either God is the demiurge in this hypothetical scenario, or he isn't. Right?
