(March 20, 2014 at 2:19 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote:(March 20, 2014 at 10:16 am)Esquilax Wrote: Couple things: one, if we're talking about a just hell, we can't be talking about any of the religious ones, because an eternity of any kind of punishment isn't just, nor can it be a cure for anything- as you allude to in your thread title- because it's clearly not there to get anyone better. It's there as retribution for not staying in line.
Secondly, does a punishment devised by an entity that assumes power for itself without ever having to earn it, who excludes the possibility of ever being recused or losing any of that power no matter its abuses, who requires no consent in order to govern you, and assumes a worldwide jurisdiction independent of any kind of legal checks and balances, sound just to you? If any person did it, you'd consider that an unacceptable dictatorship; why does whatever form of god get a free pass?
I am talking about a hell where people earn their rightful punishment for. A rightful amount of time. Also God has the right to do anything if it is a demiurge so God has earned his sovereignty rightfully so.
Are you serious ?
God "earned" something ? You actually get how totally idiotic that statement is ? Who the fuck set up the system in which "god" MUST earn something ? If what you say is true, Reality is larger than your deity, and she has no control over it, and MUST participate in a system it (supposedly) created ? God has "rights". Who "granted" it, its rights ? If god "earned" her sovereignty, who was top dog BEFORE she got done earning it ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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