(March 26, 2014 at 9:50 pm)Heywood Wrote:(March 26, 2014 at 9:32 pm)Losty Wrote: Heywood I recognize you as pure poppycock.bolded by me
I am open to having these discussions with women. I don't care about how smart my argument sounds to you though. In the case of abortion I give a mans opinion very very little value.
It's so funny because I really really don't like abortion. If I ever had to have one for some reason I think I would be devastated, but like I told the OP the difference between you and I is that I am better at minding my own business. I don't like to stick my nose in another person's uterus.
I like to be very very simple when I think about morals. I like to go with my gut reactions. What feels right what feels wrong?
When I think about having an abortion it doesn't feel right for me, but when I think about butting my head into someone else's life and interrupting them in a very very personal decision and trying to tell them how to handle it when I have no place well that feels wrong.
I'm sorry Losty, the bolded part is just stupid. Its as stupid as man saying, he don't care about a woman's opinion in regards to how a man should treat his wife.
(March 26, 2014 at 9:49 pm)Beccs Wrote: No, a person under anaesthesia, asleep, or unconscious is still a person. They were a person when they went under and they are a person when they wake up.
Well they are not persons while the are under general anesthesia but you do bring up something to think about.....they are clearly persons before they go under. We must consider does past personhood confer moral protection?
I believe the answer is no. If it were yes it would be morally wrong to pull the plug on a person who is "brain dead". Future personhood is what confers moral protection. It is why one can be charged with murder if one causes a woman to miscarry.
Okay, your definition of what makes a person is seriously skewed. A person asleep or unconscious is STILL a person. Whereas a person who is braindead is not since they have no potential to return to consciousness.
I really don't see how you can compare the two.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"