(March 27, 2014 at 6:14 am)Esquilax Wrote:The next question is this how long will you hold out for a natural explanation? 50 years...100? If you say until all natural possibilities are exhausted that's the same as never being willing to acknowledge the supernatural. Natural theories seems unlimited to the point of saying space aliens or time travels are responsible for the inexplicable. What if any limits do you place on your bias toward naturalism?(March 26, 2014 at 4:30 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: There's a big difference between making a mistake and telling a lie. I didn't read the posts as carefully as I should have and went off half cocked. Even still I find it hard to understand the difference between assuming there is a natural but as yet unknown cause and never accepting something as evidence of God. But I never tried to decieve anyone. Unless you can prove that someone means to decieve others by knowingly misrepresenting the facts, then calling people liars is baseless slander.
Well, if you made a mistake then fine, I apologize. That said, I did point out your error in the thread you initially made it, on the same day you made it. From my perspective, the issue was settled.
As to your contention, what we had suggested doing- giving any supposed evidence of god a thorough investigation- is exactly what we would want done to evidence for any other claim. The whole idea behind science is to never just go with assumptions about the nature of things; any conclusions we draw would be tentative and subject to change via other evidence. We might find signs that point to god, but not enough, from what had been suggested, to unreservedly accept that conclusion.
This isn't an inconsistency, or an unfair privileging of naturalistic explanations; it's just treating god-evidence the same way we would treat the regular kind.
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Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Napoléon - March 24, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by KUSA - March 24, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by The Valkyrie - March 24, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Chad32 - March 24, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 24, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by professor - March 24, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 24, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Tartarus Sauce - March 24, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by professor - March 24, 2014 at 9:18 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 24, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Lemonvariable72 - March 26, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Tonus - March 26, 2014 at 2:01 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 24, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 1:10 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by truthBtold - March 24, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by professor - March 24, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by The Valkyrie - March 24, 2014 at 9:57 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 24, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 24, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 24, 2014 at 10:12 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 24, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by The Valkyrie - March 24, 2014 at 10:25 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 24, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 24, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 24, 2014 at 10:35 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by FifthElement - March 24, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 24, 2014 at 11:25 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 24, 2014 at 11:26 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 24, 2014 at 11:34 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by FifthElement - March 25, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Ryantology - March 24, 2014 at 11:34 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Phatt Matt s - March 24, 2014 at 11:55 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 12:18 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 1:10 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 1:12 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Chas - March 25, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 1:14 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 1:19 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 1:20 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 1:22 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 1:23 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 2:04 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 1:35 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 1:39 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 1:44 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 25, 2014 at 3:56 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 3:58 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 25, 2014 at 4:01 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 3:59 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 4:05 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 4:02 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 25, 2014 at 4:04 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 4:30 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 4:06 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 4:07 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 25, 2014 at 4:13 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 25, 2014 at 4:23 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 4:25 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 4:14 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 25, 2014 at 4:27 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 25, 2014 at 5:11 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by FifthElement - March 25, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by FifthElement - March 25, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 25, 2014 at 4:32 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 4:43 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Silver - March 25, 2014 at 10:30 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 25, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 25, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 25, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by heathendegenerate - March 25, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Bob Kelso - March 25, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Michael Schubert - March 25, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 25, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Phatt Matt s - March 25, 2014 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Bob Kelso - March 25, 2014 at 11:20 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 12:06 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 26, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Chas - March 26, 2014 at 12:44 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by MindForgedManacle - March 25, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 26, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by psychoslice - March 26, 2014 at 2:14 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Mudhammam - March 26, 2014 at 2:32 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by pocaracas - March 26, 2014 at 4:06 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Why is god hiding? - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 26, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 27, 2014 at 6:14 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 27, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 27, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Why is god hiding? - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 2:02 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 26, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Faith No More - March 26, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 5:25 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Faith No More - March 26, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Bob Kelso - March 26, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by pocaracas - March 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 26, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Faith No More - March 26, 2014 at 5:58 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 26, 2014 at 7:28 pm
Why is god hiding? - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Godschild - March 27, 2014 at 3:56 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 27, 2014 at 3:58 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Godschild - March 27, 2014 at 6:28 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 27, 2014 at 6:32 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 27, 2014 at 4:01 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Tonus - March 27, 2014 at 10:00 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Godschild - March 27, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Tonus - March 27, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Chas - March 27, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Silver - March 27, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by FifthElement - March 27, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Bob Kelso - March 27, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Chas - March 27, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Silver - March 27, 2014 at 10:13 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Godschild - March 27, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Godschild - March 27, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Chas - March 27, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by pocaracas - March 27, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Bob Kelso - March 27, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Godschild - March 28, 2014 at 12:26 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by tor - March 28, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Mothonis - March 28, 2014 at 12:34 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Esquilax - March 28, 2014 at 3:40 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by Bob Kelso - March 28, 2014 at 4:32 am
RE: Why is god hiding? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 27, 2014 at 1:00 pm
Why is god hiding? - by Rampant.A.I. - March 27, 2014 at 1:10 pm
Re: RE: Why is god hiding? - by KUSA - March 27, 2014 at 6:08 pm
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