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To abort or not to abort
RE: To abort or not to abort
(March 26, 2014 at 10:55 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(March 26, 2014 at 10:44 pm)Beccs Wrote: Okay, your definition of what makes a person is seriously skewed. A person asleep or unconscious is STILL a person. Whereas a person who is braindead is not since they have no potential to return to consciousness.

I really don't see how you can compare the two.

Beccs, ask yourself what things a being must be capable of in order to qualify as a person. If you are honest, a human being under general anesthesia is not capable of those things. They were in the past....They will be(mostly likely) in the future.....but while under GA...they are not capable of those things.

Let me ask you this. Do you consider cryogenically frozen "people" persons? Would you change your mind if it was shown that in the future science would be capable of bringing these dead people back to life?

Independent respiration is always a good start. Don't try to deine honesty for me, it's just a desperate attempt to reinforce your argument at the expense of others.

But, to answer your second paragraph, your stretching the bounds of credibility by speculating on what is currently a science fiction scenario.

People who are cryogenically frozen these days have died. Therefore they are dead and, for lack of a better term, empty vessels. Not people any longer. The state of modern cryonics is that those bodies in deep freeze suffer from "freezer burn" and, if medical technology does advance far enough to revive them, they will need to undergo serious regeneration of their bodies before they're viable.

And that's the magic word: "viable". Until a fetus is viable outside its mother's body, it is not a person.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by BrokenQuill92 - March 26, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2014 at 3:55 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Cato - March 26, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Napoléon - March 26, 2014 at 6:01 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Napoléon - March 26, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 6:12 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Napoléon - March 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 6:35 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 6:40 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 7:51 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Napoléon - March 26, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by truthBtold - March 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Mudhammam - March 26, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 4:49 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Cato - March 26, 2014 at 4:51 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by No_God - March 26, 2014 at 4:10 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by rexbeccarox - March 26, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Tonus - March 26, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by SteelCurtain - March 26, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Faith No More - March 26, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Cato - March 26, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by No_God - March 26, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Cato - March 26, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by No_God - March 26, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Napoléon - March 26, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by KUSA - March 26, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Kayenneh - March 26, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 5:03 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Chad32 - March 26, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by pocaracas - March 26, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Bad Wolf - March 26, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Chad32 - March 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Bad Wolf - March 26, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 5:44 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 5:39 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - March 26, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by truthBtold - March 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 6:06 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Kayenneh - March 26, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Minimalist - March 26, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Kayenneh - March 26, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jin - March 26, 2014 at 6:15 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Minimalist - March 26, 2014 at 6:40 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jin - March 26, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by truthBtold - March 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 6:55 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by pocaracas - March 26, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by pocaracas - March 26, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by pocaracas - March 26, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jin - March 26, 2014 at 6:52 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by fr0d0 - March 26, 2014 at 7:17 pm
To abort or not to abort - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 7:40 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 9:12 pm
To abort or not to abort - by Rampant.A.I. - March 26, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2014 at 9:49 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 9:32 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 10:11 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 10:17 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 26, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 11:02 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 27, 2014 at 12:07 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 26, 2014 at 10:44 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 26, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 27, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 3:26 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 3:57 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 4:08 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by tor - March 27, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 5:24 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Cato - March 27, 2014 at 5:48 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 5:55 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Cato - March 27, 2014 at 6:04 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 6:36 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 6:55 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 6:59 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 7:31 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 7:38 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 8:01 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Bad Wolf - March 27, 2014 at 8:08 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 8:12 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 8:16 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Chas - March 27, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - April 4, 2014 at 4:08 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Chas - April 4, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Brakeman - March 27, 2014 at 7:36 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by tor - March 27, 2014 at 3:38 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by pocaracas - March 27, 2014 at 6:02 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 6:31 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 6:40 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 7:08 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Jacob(smooth) - March 27, 2014 at 7:16 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 7:26 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 7:24 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by pocaracas - March 27, 2014 at 7:28 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 7:29 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 7:35 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by No_God - March 27, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by No_God - March 27, 2014 at 6:53 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Napoléon - March 27, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Bad Wolf - March 27, 2014 at 7:35 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Heywood - March 27, 2014 at 7:39 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Bad Wolf - March 27, 2014 at 7:42 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Bad Wolf - March 27, 2014 at 8:16 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Mr Greene - March 27, 2014 at 8:40 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Silver - March 27, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Bittersmart - March 27, 2014 at 2:02 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 27, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by The Valkyrie - March 27, 2014 at 6:55 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Losty - March 27, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Yahweh - March 27, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by ShaMan - March 27, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by Tartarus Sauce - April 4, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: To abort or not to abort - by heathendegenerate - April 4, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by ShaMan - April 4, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: To abort or not to abort - by KUSA - April 5, 2014 at 2:13 am



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