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My sympathies for pantheism
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RE: My sympathies for pantheism
(March 28, 2014 at 10:18 am)Alex K Wrote: Hey,

I don't understand how this quote has anything to do with pantheism, or constitutes an argument for it. Am I missing something?

Well, more the general idea that there are something like fundamental psychophysical laws that somehow work together with fundamental physical laws to give rise to consciousness. At bottom I can see where some might be inclined to view this as some form of the powerful permeating consciousness that people call God, though it is indistinguishable from what others simply call Mother Nature.

I'm not suggesting that Chalmers is arguing or implying pantheism but more simply that I can see why pantheists might find his naturalistic dualism compatible or confirmatory of their intuitions.

(March 28, 2014 at 12:38 pm)sven Wrote: Everything is fascinating shit when you've just smoked resin. At least if its sativa.
I have to say the part you bolded fails to compute for me. Aren't the 'laws of logic' at least to a great extent based on our observations of nature? I believe that our brains are part of the cosmos (or nature, if you will), and our minds are products of our brains.

Yeah but do the laws of logic constrain Nature or merely our brains, that is, the representational content that we perceive and organize through the principles of identity, non-contradiction, etc.?

For example, I've heard it stated that electrons are both everywhere and nowhere. To me that makes no logical sense but unless something drastically different than my understanding of that statement is intended to be conveyed, I just have to assume that there are aspects of reality that human brains simply cannot compute because they did not evolve to do so.
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My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 27, 2014 at 9:55 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Paranoidsam - March 28, 2014 at 1:28 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 28, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Paranoidsam - March 28, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 28, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 28, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 29, 2014 at 9:54 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by No_God - March 28, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 28, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by tor - March 28, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by No_God - March 28, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by *Deidre* - March 28, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 28, 2014 at 12:38 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by ShaMan - March 28, 2014 at 5:55 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 29, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 29, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 29, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Angrboda - March 29, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 30, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 30, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 30, 2014 at 7:23 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 7:41 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 31, 2014 at 8:42 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 8:48 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 31, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 31, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 31, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Angrboda - March 31, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - April 2, 2014 at 8:11 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - April 2, 2014 at 8:22 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - April 2, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 29, 2014 at 1:26 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 29, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Angrboda - March 29, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 29, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Chas - March 29, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Angrboda - March 29, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 29, 2014 at 9:57 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by houseofcantor - March 29, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 30, 2014 at 1:03 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 31, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 31, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by MJ the Skeptical - March 31, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 31, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by MJ the Skeptical - March 31, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by jesus_wept - March 31, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 31, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by jesus_wept - March 31, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 31, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by jesus_wept - March 31, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 31, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 31, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 31, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - April 2, 2014 at 8:07 am
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Alex K - March 31, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by sven - March 31, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 31, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by Mudhammam - March 31, 2014 at 11:19 pm
RE: My sympathies for pantheism - by archangle - April 2, 2014 at 8:05 am

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