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Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 3:24 am
One thing I don't get. God made the universe. How come theists don't call themselves pantheists, then? Know what I mean?
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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 6:03 am
I believe the universe was created in a vast cooking utensil...I am a fryingpantheist.



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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 6:14 am
(December 22, 2015 at 3:24 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: One thing I don't get. God made the universe. How come theists don't call themselves pantheists, then? Know what I mean?

Wikipedia Wrote:Pantheism is the belief that the Universe (or nature as the totality of everything) is identical with divinity, or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent god. Pantheists thus do not believe in a distinct personal or anthropomorphic god.

No, I don't know what you mean.
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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 6:54 am
(December 22, 2015 at 6:14 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(December 22, 2015 at 3:24 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: One thing I don't get. God made the universe. How come theists don't call themselves pantheists, then? Know what I mean?

Wikipedia" Wrote:Pantheism is the belief that the Universe (or nature as the totality of everything) is identical with divinity, or that everything composes an all-encompassing, immanent god. Pantheists thus do not believe in a distinct personal or anthropomorphic god.

No, I don't know what you mean.
I know and understand the definition, thank you. 

Why are you being obtuse about it?
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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 6:56 am
Fuck it, don't even answer. I only want replies from people who understand the point that I'm making anyway.
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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 8:12 am
(December 22, 2015 at 3:24 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: One thing I don't get. God made the universe. How come theists don't call themselves pantheists, then? Know what I mean?

If theists believe in a God who created the universe but isn't the universe and everything in it they couldn't call themselves pantheists.
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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 8:33 am
(December 22, 2015 at 3:24 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: One thing I don't get. God made the universe. How come theists don't call themselves pantheists, then? Know what I mean?

I know some claim to be pantheists, but I think replacing old woo with new woo is still bullshit.

Our cognition as a species is a blip and there is no giant cognition or as some si fi woors claim, a bunch of QM elf tiny programers that have cognition.

All this is just one giant weather pattern, and cognition is simply a temporary outcome, just like a hurricane or tornado don't last forever. Si fi woo is simply another form of superstition..
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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 8:37 am
(December 22, 2015 at 8:12 am)Confused Ape Wrote:
(December 22, 2015 at 3:24 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: One thing I don't get. God made the universe. How come theists don't call themselves pantheists, then? Know what I mean?

If theists believe in a God who created the universe but isn't the universe and everything in it they couldn't call themselves pantheists.

I mean, my thinking is, since he created it he must be part of it. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense, not even when you realize we're basically arguing about the logic of a fantasy.
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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 8:40 am
I just argued with a pantheist on youtube. I basically accused him of actually being an atheist who was either confused about language(universe=god), too polite/afraid to admit he's an atheist or both. He didn't deny it and we continued our conversation on other topics that were mentioned in a sort of tacit agreement.
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RE: Pantheism
December 22, 2015 at 8:58 am
So, the universe is like a frittata, in other words.

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